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    Finding people at the same prog points is not as difficult as you're saying (unless you mean for old content from 2.x-6.x). I've had no trouble on any data center I've played on. But as you said, it may be the case that you'll only find it on Aether/Light/Mana at the moment due to the DC travel issue.

    You do have another option as well, which is joining prog for a mechanic a bit before the one you're at. For example, if you're stuck at a mechanic near the start of the fight, the fresh prog party will probably get to it pretty fast. And if they don't get there clean, you can still practice things such as the movement for it in many cases.

    As for the "game slowing", it's not showing in the raiding community (unsurprising, since the lacking content argument is aimed at non-raid content). PFs for High-End duties on Aether still often see 150 (currently 199). There are also some parties for the current expansion Extremes like Valigarmanda.

    They should drop the need for all 8 people in the party to have not cleared for the week to get full loot though, because they could just make the people that cleared automatically roll Need and then it go into a void if they win the roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Finding people at the same prog points is not as difficult as you're saying (unless you mean for old content from 2.x-6.x). I've had no trouble on any data center I've played on. But as you said, it may be the case that you'll only find it on Aether/Light/Mana at the moment due to the DC travel issue.

    You do have another option as well, which is joining prog for a mechanic a bit before the one you're at. For example, if you're stuck at a mechanic near the start of the fight, the fresh prog party will probably get to it pretty fast. And if they don't get there clean, you can still practice things such as the movement for it in many cases.

    As for the "game slowing", it's not showing in the raiding community (unsurprising, since the lacking content argument is aimed at non-raid content). PFs for High-End duties on Aether still often see 150 (currently 199). There are also some parties for the current expansion Extremes like Valigarmanda.

    They should drop the need for all 8 people in the party to have not cleared for the week to get full loot though, because they could just make the people that cleared automatically roll Need and then it go into a void if they win the roll.
    You're on Aether so it makes sense you would say that. Outside of Aether things are anemic to the point that even doing EX trials can take two weeks or more to clear. That and going to other games that did multiplayer correctly kind of showed how backwards FFXIV's approach can be. Albeit, this might be more a comment on the limitations of an MMO system that is over a decade old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    You're on Aether so it makes sense you would say that. Outside of Aether things are anemic
    Everyone knows that's a problem at the moment and that SE will be slow as a snail to fix it, but ultimately the answer is to just go to Aether or find whatever secondary data center people are using if it won't let you travel there.
    people need to record fights using discord or third party software just to check what exactly happened.
    Well firstly, we have those things so it's alright, and I see no shortage of blind PFs lately, and there's always been lots of statics that do it blind and come up with their own strats (I've talked to plenty of them over the years and still saw blind statics recruiting last time I looked).

    You're right though that it would be pretty difficult to work out what's going on in many cases if you couldn't record and slow it down. Not necessarily impossible but it could make it take hundreds more pulls to just get a glance at what's going on, depending on the fight. Slowing it down reveals everything from snapshot resolve order and the possible patterns (since patterns are typically a fixed number of possibilities ie. 2, 4, 6, etc).

    However there are cases where you can work things out based on the battle log or linking status effects from the battle log, and reading the descriptions, and seeing the timers on status effects, which can be helped with screenshots as well.
    Can you imagine how few people would be doing savage if youtube didn't exist and there were no videos?
    You're probably right, but if that were the case, the content would probably be designed very differently. The reality is we have had game guides since even the 1990s. Take a look at the old guides on GameFAQs and GameRevolution. The final fantasy games back then had them, giving all the top strats for the bosses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    there is also the problem of gear to minimum ilvl like I feel gearing is hard for no reason
    No it's not. Assuming someone is starting out, there is free artifact gear of 690. The previous dungeon drops 705 gear. Using 690 gear, M1-M4 can be farmed for 710 gear and Jeuno can be farmed for 720 gear.

    What have people been doing for 4 months though? They had weekly-cap tomestones and an alliance raid dropping 720 gear weekly, with free 730 augments from the alliance raid. They can now farm those tomestones via roulettes for 720 gear and augment it to 730 via hunt farming for Sacks of Nuts or alliance raids.

    Once they reach 715 (which they should be higher than by now), they can do M5-M8 for 740 right side pieces, then cap weekly tomestones for a 750 right side piece.

    This would cause them to meet the minimum ilvl of the Extreme and Savage (730). I don't look positively at anyone wearing 730 gear in such raids when 740 gear is free, but if you are really struggling to gear as much as you say, you will probably get away with being 730 because a lot of people won't check.

    On a fresh alt character that just beat Dawntrail, I'd be 740 in a day, for no gil at all.
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    Last edited by Jeeqbit; 04-07-2025 at 02:04 AM.