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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by ONLYSTEEL View Post
    LMFAO FF14 players are Stockholmed so much and have such low standards the moment Square Enix puts a little breadcrumb on top of a steaming pile of dung players prostrate themselves before Yoshi P and cry out to the glorious CBU3 leadership that we have finally reached "peak content".

    Go play other games if you want to see what real peak content looks like.

    This playerbase is so, utterly pathetic. LOL
    Yea come, tell me other MMOs which are "Peak" like you said with a big Playerbase, im curious now, and dont come with WoW because WoW isnt anything better then FFXIV
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Never imagined there'd come a day where I feel like the incoming damage in a fight is legitimately overtuned for its placement in a tier, but it's honestly stupid how much easier it is if you have a WAR due to the insane amounts of sustain they get from bloodwhetting/nascent if they're the squirrel tank and feel like the add damage should be toned down so it doesn't feel actively miserable to try to heal through the adds with comps that lack them.

    I feel like that's a bigger issue then the general imbalance with AoE damage and some jobs just having way more passive cleave then others.

    EDIT: According to FFLogs there are less week 1 clears of M6S then M4S. There is something very wrong with that picture.
    While I think the fight itself is quite good, their AoE balance is abysmal as per usual. MCH and SMN are both awful while VPR is so far ahead of everything else it already started getting locked in just to ease the burden. Tank wise, it's not that big a deal in my experience having been the squirrel tank as both PLD and WAR. I will say, there's absolutely zero chance you ever want WAR tanking the yans though. Bloodwhetting would do absolutely nothing for how much those things shred your HP.

    Quote Originally Posted by ONLYSTEEL View Post
    That's just because people all quit.
    Which isn't a good look. The devs are constantly looking for ways to encourage people to try Savage, which seemed to be effective for M1-4. Now there's always a drop off from the first tier to the second, but this the worst statistical loss since Heavensward. Put simply, they didn't just lose the usual crowd, but damn near everyone stopped even trying. It'll probably bounce back some as the weeks go on. Although, by how much will remain to be seen. My own opinion is the adds are slightly overtuned for a second turn in the same way Pandemonium was overtuned for its placement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    EDIT: According to FFLogs there are less week 1 clears of M6S then M4S. There is something very wrong with that picture.
    Quote Originally Posted by ONLYSTEEL View Post
    That's just because people all quit.
    When just looking at the first floor, the amount of M5S clears (at the time I looked) is like 75% of how many there were for M1S. Which checks out when M5S is harder. And then M6S is harder than anything we’ve gotten in the last two tiers because of the add phase.

    It has me making the assumption that the amount of people trying Savage is pretty similar (even though it’s not a perfect metric) but we’ll have to see over time how much of the downturn in clears is from people needing more time because of people quitting partway through.

    Anecdotally I’m hearing that some people are getting frustrated because of the unexpected jump in difficulty that this savage tier had, so I’m curious about how this will go over time. I personally got pretty frustrated on Sunday by how Party Finder prog was going for M6S but then decided to get back on and cleared it on Monday evening lol
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by ONLYSTEEL View Post
    Go play other games if you want to see what real peak content looks like.
    You're right, I only ever play FF14. I have never played another game in my life.

    In all honesty though I've been crying out over the problems of this game for a long time and I have been asking for changes in this direction.
    And now that we have changes in this direction you think it will help by saying It's a steaming pile of filth? What does that tell the developer? Because that sounds like the communication that got us where we are today.

    Also who are you? Not a single savage, extreme, or ultimate log this expansion? What credentials do you have to make a comment on anything past MSQ? You only have white mage and crafters leveled so either this is low quality bait, you're actually just insane or you hide logs and buy clears.

    I actively play other games way more than 14, I only hop on to raid with friends and do MSQ and I'm voicing my opinion to the developers who said they are making big changes to the formula to hopefully see more improvements in the right direction.

    you going on forums and straw-manning people just to hate on things blindly is more pathetic than anything I can conjure up if I tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFrogMan View Post
    Also who are you?
    He is half of the people on this forum. IYKYK

    Actually Skiros is more of an entity at this point rather than a him or a her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    He is half of the people on this forum. IYKYK

    Actually Skiros is more of an entity at this point rather than a him or a her.
    Oh my god there's lore LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFrogMan View Post
    Also who are you?
    Also the person that singlehandedly has bought and paid for the most service accounts. Constantly getting banned on the forum requires a new service account with an active subscription, and reaching max level requires a service account to have all available expansions linked with that account. In other words, no other person has handed more money over to SE than this guy. Not even Fantasia addicts can compete. SquareEnix's best costumer. All, just to whine about a video game for years like a bitter ex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    I don't play this game
    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    You were fun to rile up

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Yea come, tell me other MMOs which are "Peak" like you said with a big Playerbase, im curious now, and dont come with WoW because WoW isnt anything better then FFXIV
    Not a single word in that post mentioned "MMOs". Yet you did. Why? It's almost like... you know MMOs are trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnConstantine View Post
    Not a single word in that post mentioned "MMOs". Yet you did. Why? It's almost like... you know MMOs are trash.
    Tell us again about your glorious time in UCoB, clown-senpai, back when the MMO genre was still great and you thought the Nael phase was "truly random"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    I don't play this game
    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    You were fun to rile up

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnConstantine View Post
    Not a single word in that post mentioned "MMOs". Yet you did. Why? It's almost like... you know MMOs are trash.
    If its not about MMOs you wanna tell us then to compare SINGLEPLAYER Games with MMOs? Because why should i go and see PEAK CONTENT like you said in a Singleplayergame? It literally doesnt matter at all if a Singleplayer Game has Peak Content, its a normal thing that you cant have the same "peak content" in a MMO then you can have in a Singleplayer Game
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