SE isn't hearing the community RE: Job Feedback & Simplification

[RulerOfPotaoes]

99% of the "feedback" that's on official forums is negative. Say anything remotely postive about anything in the game and you literally get attacked by a pack of wolves here.

And people here wonder why SE doesn't listen to the feedback that's posted 'here' specifically. Now its all people who in their heads genuinely believe they are giving "constructive" criticism.

A lot of people here need to just move on from the game. Its like they wake up every single day looking for something new to hate about the game. *at some point its just no longer constructive criticism* Move on.

[Supersnow845]

99% of the "feedback" that's on official forums is negative. Say anything remotely postive about anything in the game and you literally get attacked by a pack of wolves here.

And people here wonder why SE doesn't listen to the feedback that's posted 'here' specifically. Now its all people who in their heads genuinely believe they are giving "constructive" criticism.

A lot of people here need to just move on from the game. Its like they wake up every single day looking for something new to hate about the game. *at some point its just no longer constructive criticism* Move on.

Because in order to have a lot of praise square has to actually release things in a timely manner and people like transparency with job changes

Like let’s look at 7.2. What did 7.2 give us

-rework to PCT and BLM
-a new raid tier
-some new story

Overwhelmingly people like the raid tier and the story and there is praise threads for them all over the forums. The only other thing is the reworks to the two damage casters. Basically everyone agrees PCT is a mess but standard isn’t enough of a loss for it to be massively noteworthy and BLM is divisive

Like what else do you want people to praise. They released 3 things and 2 of them got praised

[Aysin]

99% of the "feedback" that's on official forums is negative. Say anything remotely postive about anything in the game and you literally get attacked by a pack of wolves here.

And people here wonder why SE doesn't listen to the feedback that's posted 'here' specifically. Now its all people who in their heads genuinely believe they are giving "constructive" criticism.

A lot of people here need to just move on from the game. Its like they wake up every single day looking for something new to hate about the game. *at some point its just no longer constructive criticism* Move on.

Let's ask SE if they prefer people silently quitting the game or providing feedback related to changes they don't want. This is sarcasm, we know what they prefer. The idea that they ask us to provide feedback on official forums and then you coming to tell us we can't give feedback on the official forums is laughable.

In my experience, there is still a good amount of positivity in the overall forums, if you are only seeing negative it's probably lining up with the weak points of this game, and unfortunately class design has slowly been becoming one of those things.

As far as I know people have been positive about the story this patch, and exceptionally positive about the fight design in this tier. And I'm on that boat with them, I have mentioned my thoughts on the fight design, and praised what I think deserves praise. But class design has been feeling downhill and it's not wrong for me, or anyone to say so, nor is it wrong to disagree with the idea.

[MatchaokaCha]

I miss the times when the devs of HW and Stb actually tried to balance and fix jobs, instead of completely mashing them into unrecognizable mush.

[Carighan]

I miss the times when the devs of HW and Stb actually tried to balance and fix jobs, instead of completely mashing them into unrecognizable mush.

I mean they did do that, which is why we got the jobs as they are now. They are the "balanced and fixed" versions of the mess that were HW and SB jobs!

[MatchaokaCha]

I mean they did do that, which is why we got the jobs as they are now. They are the "balanced and fixed" versions of the mess that were HW and SB jobs!

Balanced and perfectly bland mush. Thanks, I hate it!

[xbahax92]

99% of the "feedback" that's on official forums is negative. Say anything remotely postive about anything in the game and you literally get attacked by a pack of wolves here.

And people here wonder why SE doesn't listen to the feedback that's posted 'here' specifically. Now its all people who in their heads genuinely believe they are giving "constructive" criticism.

A lot of people here need to just move on from the game. Its like they wake up every single day looking for something new to hate about the game. *at some point its just no longer constructive criticism* Move on.

I wish I could do savage as a MCH, but I simply cannot. Unless I wait a few weeks until I'm overgeared so my lack of DPS and utility alleviates any deaths and damage downs.
But I cannot. Guess they explicitly wanted to stop us playing MCH this tier, simply because it does not fit the encounter design at all? Queen cannot AOE, Wildfire cannot AOE, Auto Crossbow cannot refresh Checkmate and Double Check.

Are you serious with your accusations?

[einwol]

99% of the "feedback" that's on official forums is negative. Say anything remotely postive about anything in the game and you literally get attacked by a pack of wolves here.

And people here wonder why SE doesn't listen to the feedback that's posted 'here' specifically.

I was curious where else SE is getting feedback if not the forums. Perhaps there's cause to try to connect to the community managers

[LilithGardenia]

Conclusion & why this concerns me

I won't sugar coat it - the Black Mage changes was the breaking point for how I feel abut job direction LMAO, but it is more than that.

I don't want to play simpler, dumbed down jobs until 8.0 - that is 3 years of the expansion's estimated lifespan, that I feel like no good content can keep me around for :/ The 7.2 raids are (as they should be) being praised on their release and as savage has begun this week. It breathes fresh life into the battle content. My feelings are just.. I have like 1 job left that I want to play, maybe 2? There are 21 jobs (plus BLU) so it just feels wrong, which comes down to the fact that most jobs are the same or have been made simpler than they were in the previous expansion.

I want diversity in complexity levels across a role: if there are 4 casters, 1 should be high skill ceiling, 1 should be low, and the other two are somewhere in the middle. There should be at least 1 harder tank (GBR? DRK got cooked), one harder shield healer (SCH), one harder pure healer (AST). Why can't the DPS role have a good mix of difficulty across each sub-role? I am struggling with the feeling that SE is ignoring the community's feedback, to the point of despair in particular with the idea that they're just going to ignore the massive backlash of BLM changes in 7.2 and we'll have to wait for 8.0 job identity addressing that might not even come - in over 2 more years time.

From observation,I think it’ll get worse in 8.0.I think Yoshi has gotten not just lazy but persuaded by outside influences and he is destroying ffxiv bit by bit.I honestly want him to wake up and take control of the game and make ffxiv great again

[HikariKurosawa]

I wish I could do savage as a MCH, but I simply cannot. Unless I wait a few weeks until I'm overgeared so my lack of DPS and utility alleviates any deaths and damage downs.
But I cannot. Guess they explicitly wanted to stop us playing MCH this tier, simply because it does not fit the encounter design at all? Queen cannot AOE, Wildfire cannot AOE, Auto Crossbow cannot refresh Checkmate and Double Check.

Are you serious with your accusations?

Have you tried learning the fight and not having deaths? MCH is 100% viable, just get good. You people talk about how the game is so simplified and easy, yet can't even do deathless runs or off-meta compositions.

It's a skill issue if you can't run MCH in savage. This whole community thinks they are so much better at this game than they are.

If the game was so easy, you'd have no problem clearing without deaths or relying on the meta.

"BUT MY PARSEEEEE" get over it, only a goof is impressed by your performance in an mmo.