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    Because the cutscenes in FF14 are in-engine and the engine is older than most people who play this game (this is hyperbole) while wuthering waves is from last year.
    I don't have a lot of good things to say about SE, but when it comes to actual cutscenes, they blow most other games out of the water and always have. They can't do that in 14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenkoBernkastel View Post
    Because the cutscenes in FF14 are in-engine and the engine is older than most people who play this game (this is hyperbole) while wuthering waves is from last year.
    I don't have a lot of good things to say about SE, but when it comes to actual cutscenes, they blow most other games out of the water and always have. They can't do that in 14.
    Did you watch the video, most of the cut scenes of it are INGAME! Only the last one was a render scene build with the game engine! And you really thing that they blow other games out of the water?

    Star Citizen, 24 minutes of one ingame shot! https://youtu.be/nWm_OhIKms8
    That is how you blow other games out of the water! Because that is the future of an MMO, not what square enix delivers.

    And you open a serious question! A company who want about 60$ per patch! WHY could they do not deliver us such a quality? Money is not the reason, they make more than enough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharindel View Post
    Kuro Games is not so small, its 1500 people stong
    "Small indie company" is a meme for SQEX.



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    Did you ever stop to consider that maybe the FFXIV devs aren't as talented as other devs?
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    I think they do animations of that scale just fine, really. If they don't, then they didn't see the need.

    Typically, boss fights are game animations such as these
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kpL_nm2V-M
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvejf-vl8c
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNCj16aHiLw
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    Did you ever stop to consider that maybe the FFXIV devs aren't as talented as other devs?
    And? Did you not consider that maybe they take the money from us every month to hire more talented people? That thy can be the very best MMO on the market?

    And if you come with the argument from SE, that they must fluent in Japanese. Maybe they consider to went international as a AAA gaming company who sell there product international! And use English like mostly every international gaming studio on this planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    But does it mean that all 1500 work on 1 game only?
    Sounds like a 2020 thing when Covid came around and everyone hired extra hands to deal with the Home Office situation.
    And now you see them being laid off by the hundreds.

    Though its more annoying for Japanese companies to lay off people due to their strict labor law, since they have to run constantly in the red to justify that decision.
    So they keep their staff light numbered and hope for 'voluntary' retirements of their workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharindel View Post
    Hey buddies by SE and CBU3, i play your game since the beta. But why i don't get that level of cutscenes from you? Its not that i want to switch to other games, but why are you stuck 20 years in the past, where the most reaction of hero is to raise his arm and think "oh no... snap"

    Maybe your devs watch this and yes it is japanese! Wuthering Waves 2.2. Story and Endboss Cutscens: https://youtu.be/XXsmvmlBiOA

    They have simpler character models yes, but why the can show more emotion to that simple model than you, why they have a camera that is moving and use cinematical tools to tell a story and you not? Look at this and see and feel the emotions in there work, backed up by the music and the visuals on the background. You not even get that level in the ending of endwalker, why are you not on that level? You are a multi million dollar company, with over 35 years of experience, why we are stuck in cutscenes that mostly are on the level of games that where produced 20 years in the past and they where fully voice over!

    Can it be, that you are total understaffed? Maybe because Kuro Game the Dev of Wuthering Waves have 1500 People and CBU3 is not even on 500 people?
    Maybe because you did not find more in japan and you should finally stop to only hire people who can talk japanese. You are not a small indi studio, you are SQUARE ENIX!
    Don't stuck in the past, 35 years ago, where 10 guys in a office can produce a mario kart like game. You must go on, go into the future and do not stuck in despair.
    If I was to assume.

    It be because they are doing things in engine for cutscenes where as the thing you showed is a dedicated cutscene that is more of a CGI movie than a reflection of the game proper. Checking out the game the characters within actual gameplay are not nearly as expressive... cool combat animations though.

    For what the Devs are capable of FF14 does a decent enough job.

    Anyway that's my assumption. I never really try to compare apples to oranges with video games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharindel View Post
    And? Did you not consider that maybe they take the money from us every month to hire more talented people? That thy can be the very best MMO on the market?

    And if you come with the argument from SE, that they must fluent in Japanese. Maybe they consider to went international as a AAA gaming company who sell there product international! And use English like mostly every international gaming studio on this planet.
    Who would they hire, the people from Wuthering Waves? They're already busy. I mean you make it sound pretty easy to "hire more talented people" but if it were that easy every company would have done it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    Who would they hire, the people from Wuthering Waves? They're already busy. I mean you make it sound pretty easy to "hire more talented people" but if it were that easy every company would have done it already.
    Some companies have more restrictive hiring practices than others.
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