FFXIV totems need to change

[Sifpatata]

Hi, doing prog in Recollection EX and I must say that I love the fight, it has very diverse and fun mechanics but it has a problem, it only gives 1 totem per clear, it should be 2 totems per clear, not 1.

And the fight itself in pf is chaos and the same thing happens with Chaotic alliance raid, it's a pain to do it 99 times to get the mount, they should consider lowering it to 50 totems at least.

“Butoo there would be no content”, hey if you like to waste time that's fine, but don't drag us who want to speed things up a bit, the world is changing and people's lives too. What I'm trying to say is that they should abandon that old farming model they have from 2013 and update a little, it's not fun to do the same fight 99 times.

[Pokefan5]

Or at least give us the mount on release day for 99 and when you boost drop rates 2 major patches later lower it to 50.

That way it can still pad a patch while it's current and won't be a pain for people who are patient.

[KillaKilala]

I think you should automatically unlock all the mounts when you create a character. It takes hundreds of hours to get through the msq, and then you need to spend at least 1 hour progging the fight, which is more pain than reclears, AND I DON'T LIKE WASTING MY TIME!

[All_Nonsense]

People will try to justify it somehow I'm sure, but the fact of the matter is they expect you to hard pity a mount by doing the following:

- Waiting like 8 months
- Clearing the fight 99 TIMES

That's insanely disrespectful of people's time. Even gachas don't do that. Over a mount. Assuming every totem takes 10 minutes to get (between a totem entering your inventory and the next one entering your inventory) they're asking you to spend 16.5 hours on a single pair of wings. Everyone knows it's not going to be 10 minutes per totem. It's excessive.

Of course the fanboys will come in here to defend this in some way "Just merc the wings, just roll a 99 when they drop, you could get them sooner, not all players-" just stop. It's silly. Every sane human being in existence knows this

[Pokefan5]

"Just merc the wings, just roll a 99 when they drop, you could get them sooner, not all players-"

My 160-ish runs of Suzaku EX back in the day say hello

[Jeeqbit]

They always used to give 1 totem. I agree that there being 2 totems made the grind less painful. However, SE said it was becoming a pattern and they didn't want to give 2 totems forever; it was only intended because they felt the fights were "longer than normal" (didn't always notice this, personally).

Having cleared this extreme trial, I don't actually agree that it's very hard. I personally think the ice phase in Sphene's Burden is harder to get right.

Both the normal version and the extreme version of Recollection are very easy once you're used to it, tbh. The problem is the huge variation in strats people use. Literally every party is using very different strats, so make sure to list every one of them in the description.

If you want to do a trial once, that's up to you really, but personally I like the experience of farming it. Not everyone seems to get that this is one of the basic ways you get social interaction in the game, and helping people get through it has been social just like all the other Dawntrail extremes were for me.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Honestly I don’t care if it’s 50 or 99, if I could buy the mount immediately. If I’m earning it the hard way, I shouldn’t have to wait.

[Kuroka]

I think you should automatically unlock all the mounts when you create a character. It takes hundreds of hours to get through the msq, and then you need to spend at least 1 hour progging the fight, which is more pain than reclears, AND I DON'T LIKE WASTING MY TIME!

STOP that. Every time certain themes are brought up, ppl show up and start that childish arguments.

Its no difference clearing the fight 50 or 100 times, if i managed 20-30, ill sure as hell manage 80 more - IT JUST STOPS BEING FUN.

And the insult to have us wait months until we can buy the mounts it what drives me insane, FINE ill do it 100x but then oh no i gotta wait months. I got so many mounts - basically all of em - that way, they all feel spoiled to me.

If you want it hardcore, ok. NO mount, no drops nor trade in - NO MOGTOME - you only get it from an 100 kills Achievement. That way its fair.

My 160-ish runs of Suzaku EX back in the day say hello

Funny it was exactly this fight that broke me, when i said NO MORE, never again ill do more then 100.
Heck on Emerald it took me 100+ kills to get the Ninja weapons...


Two totems just made it bearable, if i dont deserve it after 50 kills, fine...

[Kohashi]

People will try to justify it somehow I'm sure, but the fact of the matter is they expect you to hard pity a mount by doing the following:

- Waiting like 8 months
- Clearing the fight 99 TIMES

That's insanely disrespectful of people's time. Even gachas don't do that. Over a mount. Assuming every totem takes 10 minutes to get (between a totem entering your inventory and the next one entering your inventory) they're asking you to spend 16.5 hours on a single pair of wings. Everyone knows it's not going to be 10 minutes per totem. It's excessive.

Of course the fanboys will come in here to defend this in some way "Just merc the wings, just roll a 99 when they drop, you could get them sooner, not all players-" just stop. It's silly. Every sane human being in existence knows this

Forums : "We don't have anything to do, please give us something to grind."
SE: OK
Forums: " We didn't mean it like that.."

Shrug

[Remarus]

That's insanely disrespectful of people's time. Even gachas don't do that. Over a mount. Assuming every totem takes 10 minutes to get (between a totem entering your inventory and the next one entering your inventory) they're asking you to spend 16.5 hours on a single pair of wings. Everyone knows it's not going to be 10 minutes per totem. It's excessive.

Oh my sweet summer child, you have clearly not spent time mount farming in other MMOs.

The totems are respectful of your time. I know people who are still grinding out Invincible in WoW from an expansion that came out in 2008. 99 totems may feel excessive but it's bad luck protection. If the mount has a 1% drop rate, it's ensuring you do the exact amount of clears needed to ensure you're not going over that 1% worth of effort.

That way, you don't have to replicate the experience of someone like me, where a 1% drop took me 1262 kills to get:



I want the wings as much as anyone, but asking you to do 99 kills isn't terrible in terms of a grind, especially considering you can keep doing it and don't have to wait for next week's reset like you do in most other MMOs.