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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remarus View Post
    Oh my sweet summer child, you have clearly not spent time mount farming in other MMOs.

    The totems are respectful of your time. I know people who are still grinding out Invincible in WoW from an expansion that came out in 2008. 99 totems may feel excessive but it's bad luck protection. If the mount has a 1% drop rate, it's ensuring you do the exact amount of clears needed to ensure you're not going over that 1% worth of effort.

    That way, you don't have to replicate the experience of someone like me, where a 1% drop took me 1262 kills to get:



    I want the wings as much as anyone, but asking you to do 99 kills isn't terrible in terms of a grind, especially considering you can keep doing it and don't have to wait for next week's reset like you do in most other MMOs.
    There it is. I was waiting for someone to post something stupid like this.

    "Other games have it worse, therefore this isn't bad."

    Both situations are bad. Both disrespect the player's time. Just because one is worse doesn't mean the other isn't still a problem.

    It's like saying you shouldn't complain about your broken leg because someone else broke both legs.
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    Last edited by Collin_Sky; 03-31-2025 at 03:26 AM.

  2. #12
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    R'marus Locke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    There it is. I was waiting for someone to post something stupid like this.

    "Other games have it worse, therefore this isn't bad."

    Both situations are bad. Both disrespect the player's time. Just because one is worse doesn't mean the other isn't still a problem.

    It's like saying you shouldn't complain about your broken leg because someone else broke both legs.
    You're right, mounts should just be a 20% drop rate so they're DOA in Party Finder a week after patch. You should also get 12 totems per kill so you don't have to do more than 8 kills to get it.

    It's meant to be something to work towards, as well as provide an incentive for people to run it more than a short handful of times. Sorry you're having bad luck with some of these drops, but the system is place is far better than the industry standard. Including the Gacha games mentioned earlier, which, btw, cost real money to get the things you want the grand majority of the time.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remarus View Post
    You're right, mounts should just be a 20% drop rate so they're DOA in Party Finder a week after patch. You should also get 12 totems per kill so you don't have to do more than 8 kills to get it.

    It's meant to be something to work towards, as well as provide an incentive for people to run it more than a short handful of times. Sorry you're having bad luck with some of these drops, but the system is place is far better than the industry standard. Including the Gacha games mentioned earlier, which, btw, cost real money to get the things you want the grand majority of the time.
    Incredible use of critical thinking there. Instead of acknowledging a reasonable request, you jump straight to an absurd extreme, as if people just want mounts handed out automatically after one clear.

    The reality is simple: some extremes drop 2 totems, others only 1, despite minimal differences in difficulty or clear times (often just a few minutes at most). People are merely asking for consistency across the board by making all extremes drop 2 totems.

    Additionally, the 8 month wait is excessive by any reasonable standard. That’s the very definition of disrespecting the player's time.

    You look incredibly childish when you say things like "well they should just make the drop rate 20% so we can be done in 12 kills" instead of acknowledging the actual request the OP made.
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    think 1 totem is okay, considering that people already skip the last 2 bloom patterns. In 1-2 months it will be even easier to kill and faster to farm

    i do think its stupid that you have to wait 8-9 months to turn the totems in. They fixed that with the cloud of darkness mount and got back to it with the next etreme..
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    You look incredibly childish when you say things like "well they should just make the drop rate 20% so we can be done in 12 kills" instead of acknowledging the actual request the OP made.
    I replied to All_Nonsense, and then you, not the OP. Should maybe use those critical thinking skills and apply them to your own replies first and foremost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    I think you should automatically unlock all the mounts when you create a character. It takes hundreds of hours to get through the msq, and then you need to spend at least 1 hour progging the fight, which is more pain than reclears, AND I DON'T LIKE WASTING MY TIME!
    Reductio ad absurdum is still a bad argument tactic.
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    Last edited by SnowVix; 03-31-2025 at 04:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remarus View Post
    I want the wings as much as anyone, but asking you to do 99 kills isn't terrible in terms of a grind, especially considering you can keep doing it and don't have to wait for next week's reset like you do in most other MMOs.
    As Pointed out many times before, the 99 isnt the problem, the wait is. Even more as they nerf the droprates after some time and let us unsync em... AND give em away for basically free during mogtome. They dont hold any value at all, so this is just pointless.

    Personally, after being forced to do 100 runs with no mount, all they manage is burning me so hard that i havent touched a single Unreal trial since their launch and reaching heavensward era...
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    It's funny how some of the comments here feel like they come from an SE developer. I guess it's too hard to understand simple requests from the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remarus View Post
    Oh my sweet summer child, you have clearly not spent time mount farming in other MMOs.
    It's not the badge of honor you think it is to have wasted hundreds and thousands of hours to grind for a virtual game item despite the grinding being insanely unfun.

    That's called self-induced torture and is a huge part of why MMOs are a garbage tier genre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    I think you should automatically unlock all the mounts when you create a character. It takes hundreds of hours to get through the msq, and then you need to spend at least 1 hour progging the fight, which is more pain than reclears, AND I DON'T LIKE WASTING MY TIME!
    why are people on these forums so intellectually dishonest? OP isn't asking for an instant win button, just that one of the reward models that is already present in the game be the standard for ex trials going forward. 50 runs of a single fight is already a respectable grind.
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