FFXIV totems need to change

[Xelanar]

Besides having to wait for almost a year until I can buy the mount with totems, what annoys me the most is winning the roll.
Mount drop rates are already low enough by themselves. But dividing that tiny drop rate by 8 makes it not worth my time.
Currently the only way to avoid it is going in with statics, where often players suspiciously leave soon after they are done or don't have time on subsequent scheduled raids anymore.

I'd rather have mounts as personal loot, like they did with Delubrum Reginae rewards.

[All_Nonsense]

Oh my sweet summer child, you have clearly not spent time mount farming in other MMOs

You sound ignorant. I'll feed the troll because I'm bored. Also I was right lol see what I said?

I've farmed more in other MMO's than I have in FF14 - it might be one of the primary contributors to my animosity towards game devs intentionally wasting your time and calling it "content." So lazy. You're being so disingenuous by claiming that the game is respecting my time by listing some random grind from WoW and having a crisis over it. I'm surprised you accepted that and said "Good content I need more of that" instead of at least starting to think that maybe that's not a good gameplay model. Expecting people to farm something for 20-30 hours because there's literally no other current "casual" content to play is the reason why the player numbers are cratering. It's bizarre that neither you nor the dev team in the billion dollar company have made the connection that doing things to intentionally waste people's time as opposed to actually developing an engaging endgame is starting to become a really dated design model and is losing the interest of a vast majority of players. Unless SE is going to rely on their boomer-bux to pay the bills, of course (I think they want the numbers to fade down to the Heavensward Gordias numbers that's my tinfoil hat theory). I'm not quite a boomer so I'm just mentally tired of recognizing the same exact pattern of "content" repeating and realizing it's just a treadmill with a bad story now. Also people keep trying to trip you on the treadmill (that's party finder ). There's been zero innovation in MMO "grind" gameplay for 20 years now and the industry numbers are reflecting it. I can't say it's a childish thing for me to realize as I get older that time is much more valuable than I thought it was, and to respect my own. On the contrary, you know it's ok to expect more from the billion dollar company right?

Why not make the totem requirement 300? Why not take them away so it'll make people play it more? Why not assign any arbitrary number to it? If we didn't use a base-10 numerical system would the number of runs we'd need to complete be 60? 144? See how silly it is when you strip it down?

If the grinders want content, sure, make them content that they can smash their face into for 300 hours like Diadem or some raid. But don't make it literally the only thing to do if you're not going to savage or ultimate raid. There's no endgame content that isn't exactly what we've been doing for 12 years now. Is that an unreasonable ask for $15/mo?

[LoganMccree]

Guys the game has to have grindy content for grind enjoyers. Not EVERYTHING in the game has to be spoon fed to you immediately. Get over yourselves.

The grindy content is TRASH though

[Ath192]

The grindy content is TRASH though

I mean, when it comes to opinions everyone likes and hates different things so essentially its like:

The [insert anything] content is TRASH though.

Good news is you don't have to do it. And theres probably hundreds of non-grind mounts you can get in game. But nah, those were too easy to get and now you're bored right? So you want the one you have to work for. But instead of grinding it out you complain about it so they make it easy.

This way you can move on to complaining and destroying other content in the game until its all just handed freely to you and you quit because they gave you everything and now nothing is worth anything.

If you don't see how destructive that cycle is and what it's done for this game you are kind of blind.

The only thing I agree with is the mount should be purchasable with 99 totems from the start, but I'm okay if that doesn't happen. Also 1 totem should be the norm. 2 Totems makes no sense. At that point why not give 100 totems and make the mount cost 9,900. It's just an arbitrary number.

[CCheshire]

Although I don't do Extremes, I don't see why not 2x totems each sounds fine to me like the PF is a unique form of suffering that should be rewarded imho.

[LoganMccree]

Good news is you don't have to do it. And theres probably hundreds of non-grind mounts you can get in game. But nah, those were too easy to get and now you're bored right? So you want the one you have to work for. But instead of grinding it out you complain about it so they make it easy.

Lmao do you think people actually mount farm? Nobody is sitting through that trash content when there are like a hundred superior games to play out there. Who's even playing FF14 in 2025? It's just an ERP hub.

[ForteNightshade]

They always used to give 1 totem. I agree that there being 2 totems made the grind less painful. However, SE said it was becoming a pattern and they didn't want to give 2 totems forever; it was only intended because they felt the fights were "longer than normal" (didn't always notice this, personally)..

This is the PR statement. The actual reason is they likely looked at participation rates and noticed a sharper decline because of the two totem drop, which made them switch back. Not to mention, with the drip feed nature of content, Zelenia is all a good portion of the playerbase has for the better part of two months.

To further emphasise this, the fastest kill time for Sphene is only a minute longer than Zelenia while Golbez and Zeromus are on par or shorter during their respective release patches. Simply put, it's a blatant excuse to artificially stretch out content and nothing else.

[Ath192]

Lmao do you think people actually mount farm? Nobody is sitting through that trash content when there are like a hundred superior games to play out there. Who's even playing FF14 in 2025? It's just an ERP hub.

-Yes
-A few clearly
-Probably the people posting on its forums
-I can't argue with it becoming an ERP hub

[LoganMccree]

-Yes
-A few clearly
-Probably the people posting on its forums
-I can't argue with it becoming an ERP hub

I don't know why you think this sort of grind is OK when your literal signature is:

Below we have a transcription of what Naoki Yoshi-P Yoshida said at PAX:
- "For some players, like me, I kind of get sleepy because it's so repetitive."

With how stale, homogenized, and gutted job design is; with how repetitive and uninspiring encounter design is; and with how pointless rewards from the stale encounters are, why would anyone be fine with the slop of a grind that you get xpac after xpac, patch after patch?

I seriously have to question the sanity of people who enjoy grinding for extreme trial mounts every single patch. Are you playing a video game or are you just coming here for your second job? The fights are lame, the jobs are lame, and the rewards are also lame. Maybe some of you are grinding for mounts not because it's actually any fun but because you are desperate to find something to do in this dying MMO. Break free, go play other games.

[Ath192]

I don't know why you think this sort of grind is OK when your literal signature is:



With how stale, homogenized, and gutted job design is; with how repetitive and uninspiring encounter design is; and with how pointless rewards from the stale encounters are, why would anyone be fine with the slop of a grind that you get xpac after xpac, patch after patch?

I seriously have to question the sanity of people who enjoy grinding for extreme trial mounts every single patch. Are you playing a video game or are you just coming here for your second job?

I've complained about all of that. I also stated why I enjoy having a grind. It's literally something I can log in to and mindlessly farm if I don't want to start another game. Without any grinds in the game there is so little to do around here it would just make sense to unsub.

To me, logging in to do an EX or two and see if I get the wings is the equivalent of someone casually booting up overwatch and playing a match or two to kill time. It's not peak gameplay, but at least it's something I can do in a game I'm already familiar with. It's casual content for me.

I hope you can make sense of that.