Unreal dps checks

[AvoSturmfaust]

Again, how do you propose we get people to improve in PF? Not to mention, people are right. This is Unreal. Most Extremes aren't even this tight outside min iLvl.

Start kicking them without question, why do you think do people always think everything is fine? Because FFXIV his this "My Little Pony everything is rainbow fine" mentality, so everyone thinks "ok im gucci im doing fine", no they dont, if you see someone not carrying the own weight just kick them maybe with the time they start thinking "maybe im the problem?" you can call me toxic for it kicking people instant but as example this way i cleared the tier with 2 chars already while everyone else struggles with m6s


people just need to start not accepting player which cant press buttons anymore and start to decline them.

[PercibelTheren]

Start kicking them without question, why do you think do people always think everything is fine? Because FFXIV his this "My Little Pony everything is rainbow fine" mentality, so everyone thinks "ok im gucci im doing fine", no they dont, if you see someone not carrying the own weight just kick them maybe with the time they start thinking "maybe im the problem?" you can call me toxic for it kicking people instant but as example this way i cleared the tier with 2 chars already while everyone else struggles with m6s


people just need to start not accepting player which cant press buttons anymore and start to decline them.

So...we never give people a chance to step into high end content, got it. We just expect perfection from the get-go. Truly a great community, btw.

[PercibelTheren]

It's definitely tight. You need the whole party to know how to press their buttons, otherwise it's an issue. Now that our group knows the fight, we can clear even if we get a damage down (when someone messes up a tower) and with 2 deaths or so. But that's with everyone using food and pots, holding burst, everything. I'd slightly nerf it, personally. This is content people do in PF and PF is notoriously bad when fights are tightly tuned.

[nguyentri11]

I'd understand for Savage but for an Unreal weekly that you just want to get done I'd rather not waste time having to replace players for damage. Not to mention that's not even a realistic solution available to people who don't have ACT unless you're going to tell them to judge performance by the enmity list.

[Absurdity]

I mean, that is literally what Unreal does, make it impossible to go beyond minimum ilvl and consequently decrease the difficulty.

From the 5.3 patch notes:

Unreal trials are new versions of familiar duties, designed to challenge players who have reached the current level cap by providing an experience of similar difficulty to the original versions of these encounters at the time of their release.

[Voryn]

Doesnt matter if you only had 2 deaths, if people dont know how to press buttons, instead of looking at "we used food and we had only 2 deaths" just check the dmg, hey you can call me now toxic but judging on my previous unreal experience its 100% lacking dps

The fact that there’s only two deaths already gives us the answer. People don’t know how to play their jobs, and the rest of the party can’t make up for the lost damage output. My friends cleared this fight with 10 deaths but they know how to play their jobs.

People who don’t know what they’re doing will miss out on a lot of damage output they otherwise should have. You don’t even have to be close to perfect. There’s a big difference between someone who knows how their job should be played and is just making mistakes (which will still do more than enough damage to clear), and someone who does not know how it should be played. Most people who know how to play their jobs are busy doing the Savage tier.

But a lot of beginners don’t know the way they’re playing their jobs is incorrect. And a lot of beginners I talk to don’t know what Stone Sea Sky is.

[ServerCollaps]

having a heal that does no dps equals like 4 or 5 dead people
imagine having 2 of those, despite everyone else playing "perfect"

[DeathNoodles]

The parties I've been in that haven't cleared ignored requests to hold party wide buffs and when to pot. Or they explode or don't know a mech. Cleared with people using average gear, no materia, etc. It's optional, overturned maybe but frankly, there are other fights and other u reals coming out or available. Finally feel like dps have to wake up and it's frustrating but I prefer it.