machinist main crashing out

[Nuketini]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T LOCK OUT MACHINIST FROM YOUR SAVAGE PFs I AM BEGGING YOU PLEASE I DON'T WANNA PLAY DANCER NO I PUT THOUSANDS OF HOURS INTO MY MACHINIST I DON'T WANNA LEARN BARD I PROMISE I CAN PLAY THE GAME AND BE USEFUL TO THE TEAM JUST PLEEEEAASE LET ME PLAY THE JOB I LIKE I DON'T LIKE THE OTHER PHYS RANGED MACHINIST IS GOOD AND VIABLE I PROMISE JUST PLEASE DON'T LOCK IT OUT I AM BEGGING YOU

[Jeeqbit]

I won't lock it out unless it's preventing me clearing. But the last 2 days I've been trying to do Unreal and they hit enrage always. So it will probably force my hand next week. I got frustrated relying on randoms' DPS and did it as a Pictomancer so I could clear this week.

[Valence]

I won't lock it out unless it's preventing me clearing. But the last 2 days I've been trying to do Unreal and they hit enrage always. So it will probably force my hand next week. I got frustrated relying on randoms' DPS and did it as a Pictomancer so I could clear this week.

Did they actually give unreal suzaku an actual enrage? I do remember clearing this day 1 in Stormblood with above 14 casualties. That ex killed a LOT of people, but the enrage was like, an afterthought.
Asking because I don't really engage in unreals...

[Jeeqbit]

Did they actually give unreal suzaku an actual enrage? I do remember clearing this day 1 in Stormblood with above 14 casualties. That ex killed a LOT of people, but the enrage was like, an afterthought.
Asking because I don't really engage in unreals...

They did. It turns all 4 quadrants purple and all symbols in the distance purple, so that there is no safe spot, then the bird flies to the purple note and kills the party.

I did hit enrage in Stormblood sometimes, but like you said it was easy to have loads of deaths due to gear. Even minimum item level after Stormblood, you could have a lot of deaths due to how expansions changes shifted potencies and things like that. As such, having a Red Mage was a good PUG strat to carry parties through.

Unreal however gives us no such advantages. It's scaled for our job potencies right now and it's synced almost to minimum item level (scaled for 690, synced to 695).

I always thought "You can beat the raid with any job" so there be no point.

Usually that's the case, but if there's so little leeway for mistakes, and it's a fight where PF usually makes a mistake, it forces you to figure out a way to increase the success rate of your parties. Fortunately, it's rare for that to happen in this game so jobs don't get locked out very often.

[Valence]

They did. It turns all 4 quadrants purple and all symbols in the distance purple, so that there is no safe spot, then the bird flies to the purple note and kills the party.

I did hit enrage in Stormblood sometimes, but like you said it was easy to have loads of deaths due to gear. Even minimum item level after Stormblood, you could have a lot of deaths due to how expansions changes shifted potencies and things like that. As such, having a Red Mage was a good PUG strat to carry parties through.

Unreal however gives us no such advantages. It's scaled for our job potencies right now and it's synced almost to minimum item level (scaled for 690, synced to 695).

I did see enrage during prog yes. Overgear wasn't that big of an issue for the simple reason that it was the week at release. Entry ilvl is set at -10 compared to crafted gear and most people didn't have this as it was early couple of days, so everyone was at MIL.

[Absurdity]

I did see enrage during prog yes. Overgear wasn't that big of an issue for the simple reason that it was the week at release. Entry ilvl is set at -10 compared to crafted gear and most people didn't have this as it was early couple of days, so everyone was at MIL.

Yeah, I don't think overgearing is the issue here, we did the fight in previous tier gear as well back then and crafted gear was still expensive as hell in Stormblood.

The fact that unreal syncs your gear, has basically no requirements or "filter" and can be done as soon as you hit max level is probably the culprit here. As bad as it sounds, if everyone can get into Unreal you will inevitably have people who should not be there yet.

[Zomkei]

they were doing it last tier... its probably only going to get worse

[Xapapetsu]

they were doing it last tier... its probably only going to get worse

Were they really? Last tier wasn't even bad when it came to damage checks. I don't play phys ranged so I never paid attention to it, I just leave it open for all phys ranged jobs when I put a pf up.

[Zomkei]

Were they really? Last tier wasn't even bad when it came to damage checks. I don't play phys ranged so I never paid attention to it, I just leave it open for all phys ranged jobs when I put a pf up.

in crystal and primal, yeah. not sure about aether but im sure it wasnt much different. not everyone ofc, but ive struggled enough to be forced to go dnc, and even then, there were parties locking prange out entirely in favor of 2 melee and 2 casters lol

[CVXIV]

machinist bros....