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  1. #1
    Player
    Potch's Avatar
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    Makiki Makii
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 100

    What are your impressions of BLM's current "game feel" ?

    I made this thread because I wanted to share my own impressions about BLM's current game feel, after having played the current normal raid tier and extreme trial, and also see what other players feel.

    What do you currently enjoy about BLM's gameplay, and why ?

    Similarly, what do you currently not enjoy, and why ?

    Now for my impressions :

    I currently feel like I'm a Fire 4 machine gun, and every 2 minutes I become a Xenoglossy machine gun for 10 seconds. It's not very engaging or interesting.

    I think the Astral Fire timer had the huge benefit of adding some amount of stress to the rotation, making me feel like I'm taking some risk when I almost run out of time, and feel very rewarding when I can refresh the timer just in time.

    I very often forget to cast Paradox and cast an additional Fire 4, because Paradox doesn't feel useful since we don't need it to refresh Astral Fire anymore.

    I often feel lost in my fire phase, because I don't realize I have already cast six Fire 4.
    I think this also comes from the removal of the Astral Fire timer, because before that I had to keep track of it and there was some rhythm to the "Fire 4 casts -> refresh -> Fire 4 casts -> fire finishers" line.

    I don't like that I can't use Thunder spells without the Thunderhead buff being active. It just doesn't feel good or natural for me to have to wait until I switch to Astral Fire or Umbral Ice to do it.

    For example on the latest extreme trial, often just after the adds phase I just can't apply Thunder to the boss because I have already spent it on an add and I can't just switch to UI to get Thunderhead because I'll lose my Astral Souls stacks. It just feels bad when stuff like that happens.

    I still find some enjoyment in the core gameplay of alternating between Fire and Ice phases, but now that the "pressure" of the timer is gone, it just feels really bland to me.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Current BLM now feels like a healer, where you just kinda zone out spamming whatever key your fire 4 is on because you don’t have to pay attention to anything
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Lysithea Crestwind
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    Sophia
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Current BLM now feels like a healer, where you just kinda zone out spamming whatever key your fire 4 is on because you don’t have to pay attention to anything
    As someone who has mained healer and dps caster since ARR, this is exactly how I felt when trying the new BLM out.
    Playing the occasional BLM with the slow weighty casts and threat of dropping the astral/umbral stacks, along with actually having to think about how to keep them in moments with high movement, was a very fun escape from the boring healer rotation. SMN used to be a nice escape too with complex rotation and dot upkeep.

    All my favorite classes are being slowy butchered over the lifespan of the game, even Picto now I hear has become more spammy and simpler, I can't bring myself to test it.

    Only RDM remains, though I'm sure the class will have something "pleasing to look forward too" in the near future, get ready for the jolt III spam...
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    Halala Hala
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    Goblin
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    Black Mage Lv 94
    At least with a healer there's the occasional pressure of keeping the rest of the party alive to add some variety to things...

    I agree with OP, BLM now feels very bland and boring. I've been progging Omega (O12S) with a couple of statics, and the difference between BLM before 7.2 and BLM after 7.2 is extremely noticeable. In a bad way. We're at the point in prog where we're working on getting a clear, so now there are just huge swaths of time where I'm doing nothing but casting Fire IV, and I realized that I'm just straight-up *bored,* which never ever happened when I had a timer to keep an eye on. There's no pressure keeping me on top of things, so my attention drifted and I actually performed Worse than I did before the timer was removed. Honestly at this point I'm considering swapping jobs so that I have *something* to do.

    Honestly, if the future fights are gonna be so movement heavy that keeping enochian up is impossible even with umbral heart freezing the timer in ice phase, then instead of removing it from BLM entirely, they could've just added a trait or something at level 100 that does the same job without removing the complexity of gameplay at lower levels...
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    O'ssu Mecia
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    Twintania
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Its hollow and any game feel was wiped. Everything is handed to you on a silver platter and you just watch the fireworks.

    The ticking timer and 2.50+ GCD did so much in conjunction with XIVs encounters, theres nothing like it anymore.
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    Olyvar Queen
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    New BLM feels like a WHM without the heals. Almost the entire rotation is just spamming Fire IV non-stop, especially at anything below 100.
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 40
    BLM feels soulless right now. There is nothing to think about besides overcapping Polyglot. Triplecast and Swiftcast can almost be removed too.
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Don't intend on touching it again unless it gets changes, but from what I've played it felt utterly dull.

    I mean that's what happens when you take away any room to mess up, it's not like they even bothered to try and give it something else to manage.
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  10. #10
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    Nadja Zielle
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    If SE is so worried about movement, just allow blm to move while casting. They can keep some of the big hard hitting spells as stand to cast, but there is no reason we should have to sacrifice complexity for movement, esp if it means more interesting battles. And its not like being able to move while casting would be as disruptive or controversial as just dumbing the job down completely.
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