Thread: State of Machinist 7.2

I just wanted to give your thread some more visibility. MCH is the most overlooked job in the game! Please adjust area attacks skills into the MCH into the overcharge combos. It appears like one person worked on single target, and another person worked on group targets. Flamethrower and Bioblaster barely matter. Auto crossbow doesn't look or feel good. The single target rotation is fun. Just give a mild amount of potency please.

List of major contribution/balance grievances (may not be exhaustive):

1. Damage is too low, party contribution feels bad.
2. Ranged physical is in the website description a buffing and support job, where MCH is sorely lacking. The loss of party raid buff is especially felt strongly on a job that is afflicted by the ranged tax, preventing it to either 1) fully take advantage of other raid buffs in the party or 2) fully take advantage of the big selfish DPS jobs like BLM/SAM or just any melees with its own raid buffs that it doesn't have.
3. WF should deal AoE damage like in pvp.
4. Autocrossbow should recharge double check and checkmate.
5. Battery has no AoE option, while battery generators like Chainsaw are AoE. Give AoE at least on Crown Collider.
6. Dismantle isn't as strong as it used to be for two reasons: all jobs have way more mitigation than in HW, and it stacks badly with diminishing result in a sea of mitigation on big attacks.

List of identity grievances (may not be exhaustive):

1. Decap the total Wildfire amount of compiled weaponskills. It is currently capped at 6 for no reason, where you can imagine interesting techs like double Hypercharges back to back with no intermediary filler GCD, which could allow to reach 7 GCD WFs and make room for more skilled play. Or just bring back old Wildfire and make it work like it used to by compiling every damage done under it (like current pvp Death Warrant), this would allow for very interesting theorycraft of what to put inside, and not just stupidly tie it to hypercharges.
2. The job could get access back to raid buffs, which can be tied to various ideas like dismantle (acting like old hypercharge/ninja).
3. The job lacks interesting filler and relies too much on hypercharge mindless spamm. Reintroduce older heat management, and/or bring back ammo to manage.
4. Flamethrower has been buffed to be viable, but it's really not interesting to use and doesn't interact well with the kit still.
5. Bring back bishop autoturret to make up for the loss of dismantle on party support. Make it work like in pvp with the pulsating shield.
6. Introduce more flavor to differentiate all tools between each other (Drill, Anchor, etc).
7. Introduce more flavor to differentiate between checkmate and double check.

Not a MCH main, but just adding that the Ammo system was a lot of fun back in HW/SB. I wish they'd kept it.

Honestly, just give MCH walking casts like it does in PVP, and let it deal comparable damage to like BLM, SAM, and VPR. No need for a raid buff.

Also forgot to add (I knew I forgot something major), MCH's damage profile has been leveled pretty hard in ShB with the rework. 40-50% of its damage used to be crammed inside WF. Just going back to this fundamental core identity that the job had would play a lot better in the current 2min burst meta ironically, and also help the job shine more in downtime fights like ultimates.

My suggestion ive had for a while now was adding an icrease to crit and direct hit damage dealt when barrel stabilizer is used since you kinda have to use it during burst windows now since theres a limited amount of time to use the hypercharge anyway

Are they afraid we wouldn't play melee DPS if they made the damage the same?

Because in reality, mechanics are designed for 2 melee and 2 ranged, so we'd still set PF to that and actually be more likely to do so if the damage was closer. They could give a 1% tax but the scale of the difference at the moment seems wrong.

Plus, we have the "5%" bonus which would motivate us to take both melee and ranged. Which we are likely to ignore when they tax the damage way too much on ranged jobs.

Originally Posted by Sparkling_Aria

My suggestion ive had for a while now was adding an icrease to crit and direct hit damage dealt when barrel stabilizer is used since you kinda have to use it during burst windows now since theres a limited amount of time to use the hypercharge anyway

I've always thought phys ranged as a role should have the most control over when their attacks crit/dh like as if they know how to aim their attack to maximize their damage potential.