Thoughts on how to improve on FF14

[TheInsomniac13]

Hello Exmo
Yes I have not leistend to the opinion of many FF 14 streamers to Fokus down the MSQ and took quite a lot of time doing side content. Like leveling every job, crafting every Relic, doping Eureka and Boja or Fokusing on Crafting jobs.
I was int the early parts of Endwalker when Dawntrail released and at first avoidet any kind of spoilers, however the negative Preception of the expansion was rather hard to miss.
It was when in a patch Monk got his self Buffs removed and DoT taken away were I had to admit that yes the Job is now more accessible but it simply feeled that Personality was lost. And I could no longer ignore that Jobs were getting dumbed down more and more.
Patch 7.2 Dumbed down Black Mage to a state that as we all notice lead many Mains to complain about it but they are not the only ones that feel utterly misunderstood by the developers. Heck even Pictomancer made strong points that the Developer do not understand what thy consider is the heart of there Job having nerved the Canvases while Buffing the color combos. Pictos are now punished for Paining Canvases in combat.

So already having decided I would stop playing I sat down and made a deep dive on the story of Dawntrail to see what people hated so much about it but also looking for the opinion of people wo did enjoy the story. In the end I have to sadly say I agree that the story failed at many essential points some that would be very hard if not impossible to fix retroactively.

[TheInsomniac13]

Hello Kohashi

Deam even imagining how a Turn based als styl FF made by Larian would look like makes me drool ^^.

I am thinking back and ARR Dungeon design and yeah many call it Jank but Halatalia normal and Hard had strangely enough more creative mechanics that that were not reliant on DDR mechanics then anything Shadowbringer delivered.
And I really wish that back in the days the Developter would have decidet on stronger Job Identity and Dungeon mechanics Fokusing and building around this.

Mobs trying to split the party. Encounters tough and or tactical enough to not pull wall to wall but have to engage with them. Jobs that are not static rotations but in the moment decisions of every player of what is the best action I right now am able to do.
Multiphase Bosses that change depending on how you perform.
Imagine The Arcadion M1 The one Fight I thing putting in all the DDR mechanics is quite fitting, as it stands dodging mechanics only enables you to do damage which is simply a shortening that is the timer that is the Bosses health. Now think about it that with every mechanic he hit you with he becomes more potent the damage ramps up while the more mechanics you successfully dodge makes him stress and panic more and more getting more hectic until he slips and delivers you and opening to do Majore Damage. It rewards you for doing the mechanics right.

What could have been.

[TheInsomniac13]

Hello Shialan
I am not fully sure what you mean with creating forum char after forum char... do you mean character?

I am sorry if my validity suffers from as of jet only having read and never posted in this forum but I can ensure you this is my only account.

Should this however be just an bait them please feel acknowledged and consider giving your opinion of the state of the game and what you think could improve it.

[Exmo]

So already having decided I would stop playing I sat down and made a deep dive on the story of Dawntrail to see what people hated so much about it but also looking for the opinion of people wo did enjoy the story. In the end I have to sadly say I agree that the story failed at many essential points some that would be very hard if not impossible to fix retroactively.

Thanks for clarifying the basis through which you formed an opinion on DT's story. You may have drank from a poisoned well, though. A lot of big name streamers and youtubers are ambulance chasers first and foremost and critical thinkers last. If you absolutely had to have an opinion, you would have been better off playing through it yourself rather tbh.

[TheInsomniac13]

I agree with you on that part. It was rather hard to find objective story analyses that tried to stay objective. There are quite a lot of sharks in the water that smelled blood in the water and jumped at the chance of easy clicks and engagement.
Another problem I ran into when searching for positiv feedback were a lot of people defending the story claiming people only hated on it because Wuk Lamats English voice actor is Trans... I really do not care and would never even have know this if not for many people solely focusing on that, it made it hard to find some one who could give objective reasoning.

Anyway I assume that you were some one who enjoyed Dawntrails story in spite of many nay sayers. I am glad for you In this day and age we should take all the joy the can get and hold onto for as long as we possible.

[Pokefan5]

2. Gameplay
The Game more and more Devolves into Dance Dance Revolution DDR, and since do not stand in the glowy zone can only get this complicated, the only solution becomes to make it faster, to accommodate this change Jobs had to become so easy you that you can play them blind... next iteration the enemy starts with an Debuff ending the fight after a certian so the players can fully play there FF themed DDR.

Something I'd love to see return is actual teamplay like we had in SB.

Aggro should be a team effort again, not just tanks.
Healer MP should be a team effort again, not just one button.
TP was an avenue for needing your team to refill it for you. (Though, outside of AoE spam, this barely was a factor)

As it is now, outside of it feeling bad when someone misses their 2min buffs, you may as well play solo on most jobs, it feels sad imo.

[Kozh]

Thanks for clarifying the basis through which you formed an opinion on DT's story. You may have drank from a poisoned well, though. A lot of big name streamers and youtubers are ambulance chasers first and foremost and critical thinkers last. If you absolutely had to have an opinion, you would have been better off playing through it yourself rather tbh.

A lot of us have formed our opinions after playing DT ourselves, but the moment we criticized it, it doesn't matter to you anyway. We will always be "haters", "grifters", "lacking critical thinking" or whatnot in your eyes.

FF14 white knights are the last people who has the right to judge others.

[Supersnow845]

I love watching white knights oscillate between “streamers amplify toxic opinions of the forums/discussion sub” and “the forums/discussion sub are just sheep that parrot the opinions of the steamers”

[TheInsomniac13]

Hello Pokefan5

Sadly I only Joined the game midway through Shadowbringer but what I read about Stromblood game designe makes we wish I would have gotten to experience myself, it sounds fare more situational and reactive then what we got now.

The Problem I see with a Fokus on Rotation that center around a 2 min Raidbuff window is that in an optimal play scenario every run will be the same, which makes me think that DDR mechanic is quite a fitting term for this typ of gameplay because every encounter is practically dance which steps you got to learn and never divert from it.

As to the notion of that it feels we play mostly alone in this MMO I think the YouTuber Josh Strife Hayes had some good thinks to say about this in regards to modern MMO designs. Were conveniency removes more and more player interactivity, while not having a Dutyfinder or Partyfinder would keep many player from entering the content all together. We basically play MMOs now Alone Together. Maybe this is why I remember Eureka quite fondly even though the content often kicked my Ass and cost me much sanity when I decided to do all the Eureka Relics.
But in the end some of the best times I hade there were with some random players all joining up for a Fatetrain.

[Exmo]

A lot of us have formed our opinions after playing DT ourselves, but the moment we criticized it, it doesn't matter to you anyway. We will always be "haters", "grifters", "lacking critical thinking" or whatnot in your eyes.

FF14 white knights are the last people who has the right to judge others.

Are you a big name streamer or youtuber? If not, why do you feel called out when I criticize them?

I love watching white knights oscillate between “streamers amplify toxic opinions of the forums/discussion sub” and “the forums/discussion sub are just sheep that parrot the opinions of the steamers”

I didn't say either of these quotes so either this is off topic or it's a silly little strawman. Nevertheless, without giving my own opinion on those two statements, they are not mutually exclusive because we live in a world where two things can influence one another.