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[Jeeqbit]

I have no idea which server you are in

I mean in the NA region generally. I predicted that, since old relics were a "popular endgame for casual players" since before SB, that Eureka would actually grow back somewhat and every time I went in it since, especially during patch lulls, I would see a good amount of other players there.

This was helped by newer players becoming interested in it, the free trial going to Stormblood and BA still being done, which particularly makes Hydatos feel more active than it normally would. I've sometimes had linkshell callouts for rare Eureka NMs in different regions of Eureka as well over the years.

more choice and chance to get through the content and chance of getting relic in Bozja approach.

I'd rather solo the Eureka relic than the Bozja relic. Because then I don't have to do DR lots and suffer RNG in deep dungeons. Eureka relic is literally just farming NMs for crystals and light.

There are many things you can buy to enhance your Eureka power and solo NMs (7 element wheel slots, haste gear, body with elemental stat, Elemental buff, food).

What if SE use some mix approach like ARR/HW. FATE/ raid grind for the relic of that “current expansion” but drop to tomestone once new expansion come. This keep the relic feel more “have to work for it” for the present expansion but help those want to make relic for every job and late return players. I believe this could keep everyone happy

The main issue is that I like new content. The problem in HW was that it was not new content. So they had the very clever idea of getting a failed content type (Diadem) and merging the concept with something that needed a content (relics).

I believe the ShB approach of having both as an option was the best way to balance it for both sides - those who want new content vs those who want to farm yet more Crystal Tower. I believe this is their plan. They just need the new content to be the more efficient way to do it this time.

[Gwenkatsu]

Endwalker was the only time I ever had a relic in my hands. Simple reason is that I tried the field operations once, it wasn't fun, so I left and never returned.
But as someone already said, EW relics had nothing special about them, they were the same stat sticks as any other weapon in the game - just with upgrades.
Maybe a compromise would be to make the first 2 weapon levels easily farmable through tomestones, then tie the later weapon stages to another field operation, 50.000 FATEs, or whatever.
Maybe this way even a scrub like me would take another look at the content required for the later stages

[Misutoraru]

Maybe it's not quick for you, but many of us had a different experience where we got handed our relics for no additional work because we obtained the necessary tomestones through our normal activities that we were doing regardless. The series of quests was a few seconds, once Hilidibrand was complete, which a lot of people had kept up to date with already.

I couldn’t edit my post on mobile version, I have to quote in another post. Out of Eureka and Bozja I definitely prefer Bozja over Eureka, it give players who are late to content more choice and chance to get through the content and chance of getting relic in Bozja approach.

What if SE use some mix approach like ARR/HW. FATE/ raid grind for the relic of that “current expansion” but drop to tomestone once new expansion come. This keep the relic feel more “have to work for it” for the present expansion but help those want to make relic for every job and late return players. I believe this could keep everyone happy

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Look. If they want a tomestone 2.0. that’s fine. Just don’t bring Relic weapon down to that garbo level. Even post expansions Zodiac Zeta & Anima was much better than a mere ‘tome grind’ no matter how you try to frame it. I find it baffling that we went from those to something that you can literally get your weapon after the patch was live in less than an hour because you have 2000 uncapped tome prior to its introduction for every single steps.

Also Eureka & Bozja are still active in Aether DC. Active enough to finish relics, that is. If you try to compare everything to the content at the time of its inception patch then everything else just pales in comparison.

As an aside, it truly speaks volume (disappointingly) when Yoshi-P himself mentioned how he thinks players don’t like to engage in contents unless they’re given the rewards quickly.

[Kozh]

It wasn't due to Covid nor was it due to them "being lazy".

I call it bullsh*t that it isn't them being lazy. Maybe at best it's "low effort". EW patches are full of that. Even msq is combined with trial story.

They could've make it special currency that drops from EW content mostly; FATES, trials, raids etc.
While non-EW content give, perhaps, 1/3 of currency.

[Soldier76]

I, for one, am in a "wait and see" mode

Game has been in a wait and see mode for half a decade

[Kaurhz]

Bro was literally asking for that when he elected to invoke the parse mentality with an argument. Far be it for me to say but if you're going to try and laud over a group of people or a forum with parses then your own best be pretty immaculate, otherwise things like this happen.

The proverb... There are always bigger fish in the sea is very apt right about now