Content Creators and Youtube

[gw1fan]

The best part is that ppl been saying this stuff for so long on how bad ff14 getting....guess the honeymoon phase is over. XD

Yup. I remember it all.

I remember when OG Diadem was nuked into the abyss from feedback to get Eureka and how Eureka was panned into obscurity to get Bozja and so on. I remember when players complained about how ARR was too long so they cut out a bunch of side stuff. I remember when people complained about job buff/debuff synergies. I remember when people complained about TP and aggro. I remember when people complained about cross class skills.

Is there still a ways to go on "fixing" everything? Yes. Will the list ever truly end? No. There will always be something to have feedback on, and thus there will always be ebbs and flows to community frustration and hype. The main thing, I believe, that has held the wave back until now is that "honeymoon period" and the excitement of a true, modern MMO for Final Fantasy fans. Maybe also the novelty of the job shake-ups, new content experiments, etc in each expansion HW and through SHB. Now that the devs finally feel like they've found a groove, the frustration has set in and demands that the team not "rest on their laurels," whatever that means.

[Kaurhz]

Bro was literally asking for that when he elected to invoke the parse mentality with an argument. Far be it for me to say but if you're going to try and laud over a group of people or a forum with parses then your own best be pretty immaculate, otherwise things like this happen.

The proverb... There are always bigger fish in the sea is very apt right about now

[Kozh]

My dude, watch his video in its entirety. Him saying that healers are boring was just one of the points. Also, I have yet to see somebody who constantly complains about the simplicity of healers in this forum to get a 100% parse log (casual content included). So perhaps pressing 1 button is not that easy after all. Most people ranting about healers can barely keep their dot up, let alone score anything above grey, so, give me a break.

I'm sorry, what? You were the one who brings up him saying healer is boring, so naturally I only commented on that. I did watch the video, assuming we're talking about the same thing since you never specify which. Literally all his points arrive at the same conclusion: current state healer is boring and monotonous unless everything goes wrong because your party fk'd up. Which we can argue is not a good job/role design.

"Give me a break", why don't *you* give me a break? Not everything in this game needs to be cleared with 100% parse log. And how is that even relevant to how fun a job is played anyway?

[Yoshihara]

My biggest complaint about the content creation community is people like you, who jump from streamer to streamer demanding they bend the knee and agree with everything, who can't take anything that is a criticism, valid or not, of the game or an opinion that is different than your own and create hate threads on them, like their passion and love for the game is something to be driven out of the community JUST because they want better or do not like the game in its current state, accusing the time and effort they put into their videos as nothing more than rage and clickbait.

You know what's rage and clickbait? Your thread.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Reached the apex in a game where you press the same button combination for hours?

This forum is getting better every day.

Its not like other MMOs are different so please dont do like you know anything because it seems that isnt the case at all

[ONLYSTEEL]

Bro was literally asking for that when he elected to invoke the parse mentality with an argument. Far be it for me to say but if you're going to try and laud over a group of people or a forum with parses then your own best be pretty immaculate, otherwise things like this happen.

The proverb... There are always bigger fish in the sea is very apt right about now

Well, too bad they deleted it so fast.

[RaideDuku]

I find that content creators "critiquing" the game come in 3 flavors:

1. Actually critiquing the game and having rational, well thought out criticisms and proposes possible solutions.
2. Doesn't really care, just rage-bait for the clicks lol
3. They have made the game their entire personality and now that it has had one bad/mediocre expansion, it does not reach their unreasonable expectations and they feel betrayed and now are lashing out with a rage akin to being a jilted lover, or if Yoshi-P personally came into their house and murdered their childhood dog in front of them. You know, things that would warrant the all consuming frothing hatred on display.

So...pretty much these forums.

[Zakuyia]

Yup. I remember it all.

I remember when OG Diadem was nuked into the abyss from feedback to get Eureka and how Eureka was panned into obscurity to get Bozja and so on. I remember when players complained about how ARR was too long so they cut out a bunch of side stuff. I remember when people complained about job buff/debuff synergies. I remember when people complained about TP and aggro. I remember when people complained about cross class skills.

Is there still a ways to go on "fixing" everything? Yes. Will the list ever truly end? No. There will always be something to have feedback on, and thus there will always be ebbs and flows to community frustration and hype. The main thing, I believe, that has held the wave back until now is that "honeymoon period" and the excitement of a true, modern MMO for Final Fantasy fans. Maybe also the novelty of the job shake-ups, new content experiments, etc in each expansion HW and through SHB. Now that the devs finally feel like they've found a groove, the frustration has set in and demands that the team not "rest on their laurels," whatever that means.

Man u mentioning Tp really brought me back....dying as a physical range dps really usr to be punishing.

[ForsakenRoe]

Bro was literally asking for that when he elected to invoke the parse mentality with an argument. Far be it for me to say but if you're going to try and laud over a group of people or a forum with parses then your own best be pretty immaculate, otherwise things like this happen.

The proverb... There are always bigger fish in the sea is very apt right about now

Parses are a bunch of BS anyway. I got an orange in the last tier of EW as WHM. What did I do differently from other runs? Far as I can tell, nothing. Just Crit more, probably.

Got a Pink on M3. How? Got the SCH book as a drop week 1 and outgeared almost every other SCH player in the game.

But even then, the metric is flawed. Who's the better healer, the SCH who dumps every Aetherflow into ED, and forces their coheal to pick up the slack? Or the SCH who spends some of their AFs on things like Indom and Soil, but has a lower parse as a result? The one that should be rewarded for 'better gameplay', is not the one that gets the shiny gold number on the funny number website.

Doesn't take Gold parses to see that there's room for improvement in a Job's kit. Doesn't require me to be a Gold on MCH to see that the job's struggling, or a Gold on BLM to say that the new 7.2 changes go against what the job has always been about gameplay-wise, or a Gold PCT to say that it's pretty weird that Hammer is so disincentivized in the rotation compared to 'press 123 more'.

Assuming you are talking about the user I assume (if it is, they've tried to pull the 'complainers don't have good enough parses to be complaining' card before), I have higher bests than them for M1-M4, I think that Healers need some adjustments, and I will keep saying that they need adjustments until they actually get some. And no, +5p to our DOT is not the 'adjustment' the role needs. I think about the adjustments the role needs, and what is feasible to implement with such a tight development schedule as they seem to run on over there, often enough for me to spend multiple hours writing on this forum about how I'd go about adjusting each of them. Funny thing is, I got more enjoyment/engagement/'fun', out of writing all of that wishful thinking about the Healers, than I have gotten from any EX roulette run as a Healer in the past... multiple years?

Oh but wait, because I don't have all Gold parses, me asking for Healer kits to be adjusted is invalidated, presumably?

[hydralus]

It did seem like a simpler time when drama/clickbait grifters didn't infest the community. That said the forums has always been a pretty mixed bag overall.