Quote Originally Posted by Aysin View Post
I don't understand, so if people come into the forums to voice their discontent it should be ignored because in your opinion it isn't the majority of the player base? Even though there is no way to gauge the voice of the entire player base, and a lot of these discussions are based on group discussions in what you called "bubbles" that are purely "vibes". The concept of the silent customer is foreign to you it seems, you know the ones who have an opinion but don't voice it in this case it's not there for people to see on an open platform. There are plenty who dislike the change but continue to play the class because that's what they want, and there are also plenty who switched without saying anything.

I read some of the other language forums, and looked into the discussion on discord, this is not a popular change to existing BLM players, and people are only still playing it because it's strong. There a far fewer people who saw the changes and decided to actually engage to BLM after changes, and for the most part it doesn't seem like they are ready to commit to it entirely. Those are perspectives from my "bubbles".

JP forum is the only place where I kind of see a very even split of people liking and disliking some or all the changes. But if you use them as the standard, is 50% success a good thing?

No matter how you discuss this topic everyone is sharing their points from their own personal "vibes" and "bubbles" because there is no way to gauge "everyone's" feedback, not even SE can do that. The only thing we can do is share our experiences.
Yes, SE needs to make changes based off their internal data and resources, they can take the forums into consideration but ultimately, their goal is to justify the development time spent on a job and if people are playing that job, sometimes that means the people looking for a complex experience lose out. Look at white mage, this class is not very complex at all but it’s still played so consistently in all facets of content that it satisfies the resources put into. This is in contrast to something like BLM which struggles to retain players over the years beyond its diehard fans. That’s probably why the class literally changes so many facets of its design every expansion, same with MNK, it’s always been played much less than DRG NIN and eventually the newer options also ended up being more popular, so SE changed it.