Thread: 7.2 MSQ opinions (spoiler obviously)

Originally Posted by Paintedtarget

You summed up all of my views on the bad. Wuk is a damaged character that cannot be salvaged for me at this point. I hit space bar or skip cutscenes when she is in the game which is something I have not done since ARR started. I really hope we move on from that character or they drop her out of the MSQ as soon as possible.

You are correct, Wuk is burned, she must be gone, most of the player base link her directly to the horrible add-on that dawntrail is!
I even suspect that Wuk is a self insert of one of the developers who want to be the one character that is superior to the warrior of light! She steals all the attention of the warrior of light, even to the point where she steal our boss fight. As example for what i expect of the warrior of light you should watch this https://youtu.be/XXsmvmlBiOA that is a story of the last patch of Wuthering Waves. You are the hero, you are the one who get it done. A thing Square Enix never had done. We are only be called the warrior of light, but in most cases we never be the bad ass god killing hero!

And they should really really stop give us even less than a visual novel, in a visual novel we have choices and bad endings. But in this game we are have not even a choice and now they even cut us out of the story. We are only the mentor, the obi-wan of luke or should i say the WoL of WuK? The story must be around US the players protagonist, the WoL, everything must be the story of the WoL not the scions, they are only the addition to the WoL.

No thank you, don't want the story to try to position WoL at the center. Blank slate silent protagonists are not suited to that purpose.

Originally Posted by Exmo

No thank you, don't want the story to try to position WoL at the center. Blank slate silent protagonists are not suited to that purpose.

Did you play the same game as i am? From ARR to Endwalker its the story of the Warrior of Light, from the build up in ARR to HW, to the hero story who rescue two nations from the garlean empire, to shadowbringers where you rescue yourself! Than you are the one who walks to the end, to the end where you kill a god, the personification of despair, who want to end every life in the known and unknown universe! And than you go to be the mentor of the even more awesome wuk lamat. Dawntrail was the only part of the story, that was not yours! The problem is not the story that was, no the story of dawntrail with the invading wuk lamat.

Also why do you have so many blank slates in anime? From Sword Arts Online Kirito to Solo Levelings Sung Jin-Woo? Because you need a blank slate for insert the viewer in that characters. In a movie you need to do the choices for the viewer and square enix done exactly this. While they should give us option where we as the silent protagonist choose, even if all the choices in the end lead to the same outcome, this is how you tell a good story and give the player aka viewer the choice of inserting themself in such a character. We want to experience the role of the protagonist! And that is why a silent protagonist is a good thing! Yes it would be nice to have that choices also with a voice. But it is not needed, because when you have choices, to be cocky or barsch or direct or smart or something else. We experience the story on our own way. But square enix do not deliver us that!

So sorry to say, but your arguments are weak, we have that WoL centric story all the time, but SE is only to incompetent to deliver it to us. And these incompetence peaked now in dawntrail! In Shadowbringers and Endwalker the incompetence was not that high, because the overall story was not that bad. But the railing of that story, where we are forced to a story path, was there every time! With some exceptions, when we had to chose like with zenos where we had at least the option to say "yes i want to be on your side, lets fight" but than zenos say "no no, that is not your way!"

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

I like machinations………because it’s the easiest indication that this is a skipable cutscene if you are someone who skips cutscenes

Oh machinations is the theme of wuk lamat... now i get it... if i hear that or see her i can skip...

Originally Posted by Sharindel

Did you play the same game as i am? From ARR to Endwalker its the story of the Warrior of Light, from the build up in ARR to HW, to the hero story who rescue two nations from the garlean empire, to shadowbringers where you rescue yourself! Than you are the one who walks to the end, to the end where you kill a god, the personification of despair, who want to end every life in the known and unknown universe! And than you go to be the mentor of the even more awesome wuk lamat. Dawntrail was the only part of the story, that was not yours! The problem is not the story that was, no the story of dawntrail with the invading wuk lamat.

Also why do you have so many blank slates in anime? From Sword Arts Online Kirito to Solo Levelings Sung Jin-Woo? Because you need a blank slate for insert the viewer in that characters. In a movie you need to do the choices for the viewer and square enix done exactly this. While they should give us option where we as the silent protagonist choose, even if all the choices in the end lead to the same outcome, this is how you tell a good story and give the player aka viewer the choice of inserting themself in such a character. We want to experience the role of the protagonist! And that is why a silent protagonist is a good thing! Yes it would be nice to have that choices also with a voice. But it is not needed, because when you have choices, to be cocky or barsch or direct or smart or something else. We experience the story on our own way. But square enix do not deliver us that!

So sorry to say, but your arguments are weak, we have that WoL centric story all the time, but SE is only to incompetent to deliver it to us. And these incompetence peaked now in dawntrail! In Shadowbringers and Endwalker the incompetence was not that high, because the overall story was not that bad. But the railing of that story, where we are forced to a story path, was there every time! With some exceptions, when we had to chose like with zenos where we had at least the option to say "yes i want to be on your side, lets fight" but than zenos say "no no, that is not your way!"

You are confusing "the WoL did a thing" with "the story is about the WoL". None of the previous expansions centered the WoL at the center of the story.

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

You can make arguments for any of them but if ShB isn’t about the WOL then who the hell is it about

Emet Selch and the Crystal Exarch primarily. Ryne, Ardbert and Elidibus secondarily.