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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    1) the nerf overly focusing on the balance of FRU at the expense of everything else
    It is funny that they waited for 4 months and a whole patch where FRU was the only thing of note going on, and where PCT literally destroyed the competition, without doing anything, to suddenly bring the nerf bat out for 7.2, where FRU isn't really on the radar anymore. The balance team has such a funny way to miss their own train.
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    MrJPtheAssassin's Avatar
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    Rose Blackstorm
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    It is funny that they waited for 4 months and a whole patch where FRU was the only thing of note going on, and where PCT literally destroyed the competition, without doing anything, to suddenly bring the nerf bat out for 7.2, where FRU isn't really on the radar anymore. The balance team has such a funny way to miss their own train.
    The thing is, tho, even if they nerf the job for FRU when FRU came out, we would still be in the spot where the job isn't great in savage as we are now...you can't just nerf Picto every time a new ult comes out and then then turn around and buff it when savage comes out. The only major reason Picto did so well in FRU is bc other jobs just have problems in fights with a bunch of downtime, while Picto is kinda the first job that loves downtime. It was its niche, and what it was good at. Tier 1 savage Picto was never op, it was doing fine, ppl only complain about it bc of FRU. What the devs should've done was actually fix the other jobs and add some kinda mech to each to help them in downtime fights like Ultimates...


    Now I just want to make a genetic comment about pct state now

    The damage is done now, the ppl who wanted Picto nerf got their way, and now picto is now IMO one of the worst casters in the game. Like why bring a Picto now over an RDM or even an SMN? As I said in every "plz nerf picto" thread that was made months ago, if you nerf picto and it ends up near rdm or in the middle of rdm and the other melee, it would lose its spot on teams. For the caster spot, ppl will always prefer a rez caster and the flex spot will always go to the dps's that has the most value, mostly a 2nd melee or a BLM. Picto is now doomed to be the middle child of the casters, it doesn't do the dps to compete with BLM or other melees to give it the flex spot, and it doesn't have the battle rez to compete with rdm and smn for the caster spot...
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    Bharbroes Swyrwyrstsn
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    I'm honestly surprised PCT even made it this far out of development as it was. Isn't it hilariously ironic they stripped an art themed job of any individuality it had?
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    They just need to put a tiny amount of potency back into each muse as both a buff to its damage and to make the muses gains

    Put like 50 potency back on each hammer hit and 100 potency on star prism so the standard rotation returns to an absolute gain and buffs its damage by like 2% putting it well clear of RDM and they’d fix basically everything while still keeping it in check for FRU
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    MrJPtheAssassin's Avatar
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    Rose Blackstorm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They just need to put a tiny amount of potency back into each muse as both a buff to its damage and to make the muses gains

    Put like 50 potency back on each hammer hit and 100 potency on star prism so the standard rotation returns to an absolute gain and buffs its damage by like 2% putting it well clear of RDM and they’d fix basically everything while still keeping it in check for FRU
    I completely agree, and I hope they do that, BUT I really don't know anymore. Devs tend not to walk things back a lot of times and leave jobs the way they just are after nerf. At At least that's how it feels sometimes to me, I could be completely wrong and willing to admit that if they do fix the mistake that was made with Picto. We just have to wait and see what happens in a few weeks with the next patch, but Im not keeping my hopes up.
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They just need to put a tiny amount of potency back into each muse as both a buff to its damage and to make the muses gains

    Put like 50 potency back on each hammer hit and 100 potency on star prism so the standard rotation returns to an absolute gain and buffs its damage by like 2% putting it well clear of RDM and they’d fix basically everything while still keeping it in check for FRU
    I think it's even less needed. It should become positive at ~10-20 potency. And keeping it nearly equal and just marginally positive would actually be smart conceptually, as it puts a strong focus on mobility, but at the same time it's not a waste but given the marginal gain it's also totally not a waste to sit on it for a while to be ready for high movement phases.
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    Dahlinea Thriss
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I was using PCT as main job after I returned for this expansion, since I had none at the time and it was a new caster, but I dropped it for now. It's too weird to play with it now knowing its main mechanic is so severely cut that you're better off casting basic spell combos. Like, what's the point of playing PCT now?

    I picked RDM for the time being. RDM looks more fun and compelling right now. Though we shouldn't praise RDM too much because the devs might decide to rework it too.
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    It's all just Ruin.


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    Raveen Raines
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dahlinea View Post
    I was using PCT as main job after I returned for this expansion, since I had none at the time and it was a new caster, but I dropped it for now. It's too weird to play with it now knowing its main mechanic is so severely cut that you're better off casting basic spell combos. Like, what's the point of playing PCT now?

    I picked RDM for the time being. RDM looks more fun and compelling right now. Though we shouldn't praise RDM too much because the devs might decide to rework it too.
    I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but I was really hoping for a slight buff to fix hammer damage. Either they’re ok with where PCT’s damage is, or they think the new rotation is fine.

    Looks like we’ll probably have to wait for 7.3 for any potential updates.
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but I was really hoping for a slight buff to fix hammer damage. Either they’re ok with where PCT’s damage is, or they think the new rotation is fine.
    Bigger chance is that to them it's a very very low priority problem, as the actual issue is in the order of 1%-2% damage loss.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    Bigger chance is that to them it's a very very low priority problem, as the actual issue is in the order of 1%-2% damage loss.
    You’d think it would be a higher priority given the changes they made in 7.2 made it objectively harder to optimise
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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