i see they decided to delete black mage.

[TheTrueExcalibur]

i implore them to revert these black mage changes as soon as humanly possible, this completely erases the core philosophy of prepositioning and fight knowledge being integral to black mage and its honestly insulting. genuinely considering just dropping the game at this point seen as how they have outright purged my main class from the game twice in a row now first with cards and nocturnal sect's removal and again now that black mage has been lobotomized. and thats not even touching on the countless problems with other classes they seem perfectly content to entirely ignore or even exacerbate

[Starkbeaumont]

i bet you didn't even do much on blm since DT.
7.0's take on blm was horrible. it simply didn't fit the encounter design anymore. all skill expression and class fantasy doesn't help you when you need so much more effort just to end up in 2nd place (speaking just about casters).

[Keichi]

Dont see the problem.
Blm looks to be faster now and people complained about the timer and the long casting time all the time.
They have yet adjusted it (ok, it feels weird now, that you dont have to look for the timer anymore)

I would more complain, that summoner has lost his relevance.
Until now was the blm the canon, slow and strong, and the summoner the gun, fast but weaker -with practicly no casting time-. And rdm something in between.

But now is the blm very fast (feels even faster as some meele). And steals Summoner trait.
The only critic i had is, that you can now Spam fire4 until mana is over with 0 problems. And could maybe even forgot paradox and fire3.

But in overall does it look like a good change for me. The timer was still the most annoying thing. Because it was so short (ok, 20s timer could had worked to).

[Keichi]

Dont see the problem.
Blm looks to be faster now and people complained about the timer and the long casting time all the time.
They have yet adjusted it (ok, it feels weird now, that you dont have to look for the timer anymore)

I would more complain, that summoner has lost his relevance.
Until now was the blm the canon, slow and strong, and the summoner the gun, fast but weaker -with practicly no casting time-. And rdm something in between.

But now is the blm very fast (feels even faster as some meele). And steals Summoner trait.
The only critic i had is, that you can now Spam fire4 until mana is over with 0 problems. And could maybe even forgot paradox and fire3.

But in overall does it look like a good change for me. The timer was still the most annoying thing. Because it was so short (ok, 20s timer could had worked to).

[Rithy255]

They need to revert it, cast times most importantly.

If they want to give blm more room and less chances to mess up, Give black mage a spammable movement option that's a slight damage loss but resets the timer for emergency situations where you need to move or if you mess up astral fire timers.

I'd also remove Astral Gauge this gauge has caused so many issues with how black mage is designed, they can either make flare star a upgrade or be a follow up attack from despair (either one is fine) I personally resent this gauge as I think it's a key reason why people have been complaining about DT BLM and hence we got this bad rework.

[Azurarok]

I kinda think one reason they did Flarestar the way they did was to kill nonstandard specifically, or rather, removing the skill gap is the point of it.

The goal probably isn't to make it friendlier or enjoyable for the players, but to reduce variance in output to make designing content easier.

[Keichi]

They need to revert it, cast times most importantly.

If they want to give blm more room and less chances to mess up, Give black mage a spammable movement option that's a slight damage loss but resets the timer for emergency situations where you need to move or if you mess up astral fire timers.

I'd also remove Astral Gauge this gauge has caused so many issues with how black mage is designed, they can either make flare star a upgrade or be a follow up attack from despair (either one is fine) I personally resent this gauge as I think it's a key reason why people have been complaining about DT BLM and hence we got this bad rework.

After played new BLM the whole new story part:

I love the change. You are now much faster and stil has your casting time. Its around the same time, as the other caster. You are only less punished by movement.
The removal of the timer is even nice., Because you dont need to restart your rotation, because of mechanic.
It only feels weird, to not have the timer anymore. And, that you can now spam fire4 until your mp is empty. So much, that you could forget paradox and fire3.

In my view is it a great upgrade. Because, it fixed the biggest 2 problems of the blm (has heared many times, that some dislike him, because he is so slow and, the timer can easily be forgotten, esspecialy by non main blm).
The only complain i have is: That spellspeed becomes meaningless (at last does it feels that way).

BLM is the only class, that could use Speed effectivly. But, because the casting time is now so fast, has it the feeling, that it has barely any meaning now (have currently a ct of 1,84s, that doesnt look so much differently to 2s). Mean, that whe would equip or stuff with crit mats to now. Like every other caster.

[Owyn_Addens]

In my view is it a great upgrade. Because, it fixed the biggest 2 problems of the blm (has heared many times, that some dislike him, because he is so slow and, the timer can easily be forgotten, esspecialy by non main blm).
The only complain i have is: That spellspeed becomes meaningless (at last does it feels that way).

BLM is the only class, that could use Speed effectivly. But, because the casting time is now so fast, has it the feeling, that it has barely any meaning now (have currently a ct of 1,84s, that doesnt look so much differently to 2s). Mean, that whe would equip or stuff with crit mats to now. Like every other caster.

I couldn't disagree more. People that disliked the slow casts and the Fire/Ice timer could play literally any other job, but now BLM has lost a lot of what made it unique. It's like saying that having to stay within 3y of the boss is the biggest problem with melees and that it would be much better to fix them by giving all of their skills a 25y range.

As far as Spell Speed goes, it's actually closer to crit now than it's ever been, since Flare Star got an obscene buff and high speed means you get to cast it more often.

[Jeeqbit]

It's like saying that having to stay within 3y of the boss is the biggest problem with melees and that it would be much better to fix them by giving all of their skills a 25y range.

We should bookmark this post for when it inevitably happens.

[Keichi]

Disagree, there is a reason why you can not play any other class.
Reason: Blm is the only true wizard in the game and with that, practicly a core class.

Whe have multiple caster, that is correct. But only the blm fit the fantasy of the classical wizard (staff, element magic, robes and pointy hat).
Summoner is a sub class, who is specialized in familair.
Red Mage is a spell sword.
And Picto is a artist.

Than is it bs to say, that someone should play something else, if he doesnt like something on the class.
There is no reason for the extra long casting time. A cast time to everyone else is legitim (with exception of monk, i think nin and maybe Viper -not sure about him-, have all meele around the same attack speed, even all ranger have around the same speed, there is no reason to have a super slow caster -except as contrast for Super fast summoner-).

The slow speed is even frustating, when the enemie has a lot of attacks, and you are missing only one second for cast time, each time. Or, the enemies are dying so fast, that you are doing practicly nothing. The slow speed can even be boring to (i wavered between blm and drg, because blm was so slow, that i fallen "assleep" in some dungeons -but have times to keep track of the surrounding-, while the drg was one of the fastes meele and keep me busy -but im more distracted from the surrounding-, the new speed make them equal, up to blm beeing even faster).
Its a taste question in overall.

Where i agree half is the timer. It gave you something to keep attention and 20s could be enough to. But at the same time is it simply a relique, who doesnt gave us much.