Ty SE for BLM changes!

[Auro_Seldaris]

I was quite content to leave my initial post to stand on it's own. I've made my point and didn't discuss further with others because I had nothing to add or detract. I responded because they quoted me and were rude about it. Some people are unhappy with the changes and that's perfectly valid. SMN could do with some complexity being returned for sure, but I am much happier that it actually matches it's name and expectation I have for a summoner, when I was new and found it to be more of a dot mage with only the occaisional cool summon I was disappointed. Although much as I do love bahamut I was not thrilled to see them just tack on another version of bahamut to it for dawntrail, that feels really lazy. I like others was hoping for something like Odin, Ramuh, Shiva to be added as alternatives to Ifrit, Garuda and Titan.

I said already I enjoyed the slow BLM style a lot, I never liked sps blm at all. I wanted slow casts with big meaty hits. But given how much movement is in the combat encounters even the slower cast time is still feeling alright to me and I am enjoying the job still. It could still be made better, thunder still needing you to swap element is seeming laregly pointless for instance. And I hope in 8.0 they lean into the big booms aspect and change up the astral/umbral phase. I've as much to dislike over jobs being made more samey and simple in the name of broader appeal as anyone else given my three mained jobs in stb were AST, MNK and DRK. I've never been able to enjoy DRK since. On the plus side the newer classes having much less button bload and more approachable rotations means I've been able to recruit more friends to play who fell off other games due to have to many buttons to spam, *cough* WoW.

Now see, this is a post I can actually get behind. You have to admit, you initally came off as "Get bent, I like it". that was the only real reason for my irritation at you. Largely we agree on some things.

Such as this post? I totally agree. I do like that SMN is actually, ya know... a summoner now. Though I would like to add that, if people wanted the Dot Mage playstyle, they should have a job available for that, it's SE's fault for not providing that. I just feel they ruined the playstyle and the class fantasy of BLM just as bad as they did with (Dot mage)SMN with these changes.

BLM changes good, honestly
Only people complaining are those who made it playing that janky job their only defining trait
Even The Balance agrees after the servers went live, that the changes aren't as bad as they anticipated

The Balance are part of the problem, not the solution. As I said a few days ago in regards to AST changes and ruining the card system. They want everything made all the same, all the uniqueness filed off, all in the sake of MUH OPTIMIZATION.

[Wolwosh]

If only the game had a class system that could cater to both who want a easy job and a more complicated job... if only we had a job called summoner which was entry level for casters who didn't enjoy cast times on a magic dps. Maybe then they would instead play summoner and not have to worry about scary complex black mage where theirs room to fail.

what a shame indeed.

I used to play Summoner until they gutted that. There is less and less to play if you're looking to challenge yourself.
The funny thing is that they made Summoner super easy, but I still see a lot of them being horrible at it even now, so who are they really doing this for?

[YukioKobayashi]

Ah... "muh parselogs". As if that's literally the only thing that matters. IDGAF about parsing, friend.

I don't have anything against that person, personally. I dislike their attitude that "it's ok to ruin it if it benefits me".

Aelin never said its ok because it only benefits HER.
It benefits more people than it actually hurts. Which is true. It even benefits the random YOU get in your next expert.
Ofc it sucks that BLM got changed to cater to the majoity of the playerbase. Even I'm not happy about it and i only mess around on BLM in turbo casualcontent but I dont go off at people for having a different opinion than I do.
Dont go off at people if you cant deal with the echo.

[Auro_Seldaris]

Aelin never said its ok because it only benefits HER.
It benefits more people than it actually hurts. Which is true. It even benefits the random YOU get in your next expert.
Ofc it sucks that BLM got changed to cater to the majoity of the playerbase. Even I'm not happy about it and i only mess around on BLM in turbo casualcontent but I dont go off at people for having a different opinion than I do.
Dont go off at people if you cant deal with the echo.

Let me shift this discussion a little bit, because I am angry about what's being done, but I dont want to be angry in the wrong context- i.e. interpersonally.

At what point do people finally get tired of the oversimplification? It already came for healers, years ago. Then it started screwing up tank individuality. Phys Ranged is literally just being ignored to death, but that's a different subject. Now finally, we're homogenizing and smoothbraining the casters, starting with SMN.

At what point does the community go, "Enough, Yoshida. Stop dumbing the game down, or we quit."? I mean, for Twelve's sake, they're already tired of it on the subreddit. Go look at some of the posts since the patch notes dropped. There's too much agreeability towards CSIII here. We just take and take, and they keep dumbing it down and we just keep going, "oh thank you , Daddy Yoshida, thank you, may I have another?" I appreciate both Lucy Pyre for calling for a general unsubscription from the game due to its many chronic problems, and now Cole Evyx for being LITERALLY the only content creator willing to stick his neck out for the BLM community and say we have every right to be pissed off.

My problem with Aelin is that it came off as "Well even though I don't main it and you do, it works for me, so too bad, get bent". After a far more detailed post about it, it cleard up the way Aelin felt about it and it is a bit more reasonable. I still disagree, it's not ok, but the more detailed thoughts made it less outright offensive.

I appreciate that you can see my point of view and even share it, attempted lowblow about parselogs - which are illegal, I might add - aside.

[MisterNublet]

Ofc it sucks that BLM got changed to cater to the majoity of the playerbase.

Citation needed.

[DiaDeem]

[Basteala]

You know with all the changes turning BLM into a Flarebot, the least they could have done was change out the really jank Aetherial Manipulation for something playable.

[Taranok]

I've been wanting timers removed since I realized how much they were dragging down my enjoyment of playing the class all the way back in tier 1 shadowbringers. I'm glad they're gone. I can play the class just fine, but man it's nice to be able to enjoy it without oppressive timers acting as a sword of damocles over my head at every moment. Now the devs can do boss cutscenes and I can enjoy it instead of complaining about how the boss once again forces timer drops.

As for the rest of the changes, well...the devs are hell bent on killing every last caster in the game. Either the players roll over and accept yet another form of homogenization ruining the game, or they start to fight back, because it won't be long before every class is simplified down to handle the ridiculous amounts of encounter difficulty creep the game keeps adding.