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  1. #21
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    MikkoAkure's Avatar
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TKMXIV View Post
    Please correct me if I'm wrong because I don't follow DPS rankings, but last time I did hear something in passing it was that MCH was lowest on the totem pole or in the bottom three, I think.

    Why on Earth are they only doing nerfs to MCH this patch? Shouldn't it have gotten some kind of buff or something?
    ALL jobs had spammable AoE potency reductions, not just MCH. ALL jobs also had their other AoEs buffed so that damage doesn't fall off as much (more damage) to targets after the first, including MCH.


    On the other hand, in regards to why it didn't get buffed specifically, your guess is as good as mine. According to the tool tip, pranged aren't going to be "as affected" by upcoming content like melee and casters, which insinuates mechanics causing downtime for both of those but I think the genre of job is in a worse space in general than the other two and could use some help before the 8.0 overhaul.
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    Last edited by MikkoAkure; 03-24-2025 at 09:18 PM.

  2. #22
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    TKMXIV's Avatar
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    Fortuna Fiora
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    ALL jobs had spammable AoE potency reductions, not just MCH. ALL jobs also had their other AoEs buffed so that damage doesn't fall off as much (more damage) to targets after the first, including MCH.


    On the other hand, in regards to why it didn't get buffed specifically, your guess is as good as mine. According to the tool tip, pranged aren't going to be "as affected" by upcoming content like melee and casters, which insinuates mechanics causing downtime for both of those but I think the genre of job is in a worse space in general than the other two and could use some help before the 8.0 overhaul.
    Ah yeah, my mistake still in the process waking up. I ended up reading it wrong with my half blurred vison.

    Edit: Still feels odd that Spread Shot and Scattergun got hit with reduced Potency.
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    Last edited by TKMXIV; 03-24-2025 at 09:28 PM.

  3. #23
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    Rithy255's Avatar
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Just play casters they are basically physical ranged at this point with how little you need to cast.
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  4. #24
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    Kohashi's Avatar
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    You're comparing to an old savage fight, while trying to justify random changes with little to no explanations from dev team. While I do not want to judge your experience, I'm aware you're a endgame raider - "in the future" were never correct to this date.
    It already proves, even the JP playerbase is discussing this in the very moment and honestly, it made me chuckle so much.

    Reading the comment - "Did the management's parents get killed by the Machinist?" - just amazed me.
    I mean I was providing a counter argument to their point. Saying that it was never the case, even in ultimates was incorrect, so?

    Also, you are raging and crying over stuff that has not yet been released/ revealed. All you are doing is guesswork and repeating the same circle jerk others vomited countless times.
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  5. #25
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    Carin-Eri's Avatar
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    Carin Eri
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TKMXIV View Post
    Please correct me if I'm wrong because I don't follow DPS rankings, but last time I did hear something in passing it was that MCH was lowest on the totem pole or in the bottom three, I think.

    Why on Earth are they only doing nerfs to MCH this patch? Shouldn't it have gotten some kind of buff or something?
    This!

    Its' a real shame that, for the numerous threads and posts complaining about BLM, the fact that (what I understand is) the lowest DPS job is getting more nerfs.

    I get the impression the Devs hate MCH.
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  6. #26
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    YukioKobayashi's Avatar
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    Ike Xander
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    Lich
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I mean I was providing a counter argument to their point. Saying that it was never the case, even in ultimates was incorrect, so?

    Also, you are raging and crying over stuff that has not yet been released/ revealed. All you are doing is guesswork and repeating the same circle jerk others vomited countless times.
    Because there wasnt a fight in a past few years that was particular bad for melee uptime.
    P8s had a uptime strat , same as light rampant in E8s. PF just didnt use it.
    Please give us one example that was even with the right strats or massive mitigation uptime unfriendly. (Not from the stone-age and not smth that loses you only half a gcd ofc)
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  7. #27
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Oh really? P8s would like to have a word with you then.
    Wait, when in P8S?
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  8. #28
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I mean I was providing a counter argument to their point. Saying that it was never the case, even in ultimates was incorrect, so?

    Also, you are raging and crying over stuff that has not yet been released/ revealed. All you are doing is guesswork and repeating the same circle jerk others vomited countless times.
    It’s pointless to argue with you.

    You don’t know what I truly think about the game, nor do you understand how I feel about the many opinions here. I joke around here and there, but honestly, no one really has to care about my opinion, and that’s totally fine. It doesn’t need to please you or anyone else. It’s mine, and that’s that. But of course, it’s much easier to accuse me of things to make yourself look better. I quote: All you do is put others in boxes and dismiss any arguments just because they don’t fit your bubble.
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  9. #29
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    YukioKobayashi's Avatar
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    Ike Xander
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Wait, when in P8S?
    he is probably talking about the knockback dog in p1 that literally cucks every role and not just melee.
    But this mechanic got skipped by groups with hands once ppl got gear
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  10. #30
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    Exia Lupus
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    Spriggan
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Isn't the point that phys ranged deal less damage because they don't need to worry about uptime or positionals? Their current damage seems alright to me.
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