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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    This has never, ever been the case. Ever. Even in ultimate content.
    Oh really? P8s would like to have a word with you then.

    Also just because this was never the case doesn't mean, in the future this will not be the case. Obviously the change was done for future fights and not present/ past ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    in the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso View Post
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    shrug. Your ign checks out..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Oh really? P8s would like to have a word with you then.

    Also just because this was never the case doesn't mean, in the future this will not be the case. Obviously the change was done for future fights and not present/ past ones.
    You're comparing to an old savage fight, while trying to justify random changes with little to no explanations from dev team. While I do not want to judge your experience, I'm aware you're a endgame raider - "in the future" were never correct to this date.
    It already proves, even the JP playerbase is discussing this in the very moment and honestly, it made me chuckle so much.

    Reading the comment - "Did the management's parents get killed by the Machinist?" - just amazed me.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 03-24-2025 at 09:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    You're comparing to an old savage fight, while trying to justify random changes with little to no explanations from dev team. While I do not want to judge your experience, I'm aware you're a endgame raider - "in the future" were never correct to this date.
    It already proves, even the JP playerbase is discussing this in the very moment and honestly, it made me chuckle so much.

    Reading the comment - "Did the management's parents get killed by the Machinist?" - just amazed me.
    I mean I was providing a counter argument to their point. Saying that it was never the case, even in ultimates was incorrect, so?

    Also, you are raging and crying over stuff that has not yet been released/ revealed. All you are doing is guesswork and repeating the same circle jerk others vomited countless times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I mean I was providing a counter argument to their point. Saying that it was never the case, even in ultimates was incorrect, so?

    Also, you are raging and crying over stuff that has not yet been released/ revealed. All you are doing is guesswork and repeating the same circle jerk others vomited countless times.
    Because there wasnt a fight in a past few years that was particular bad for melee uptime.
    P8s had a uptime strat , same as light rampant in E8s. PF just didnt use it.
    Please give us one example that was even with the right strats or massive mitigation uptime unfriendly. (Not from the stone-age and not smth that loses you only half a gcd ofc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I mean I was providing a counter argument to their point. Saying that it was never the case, even in ultimates was incorrect, so?

    Also, you are raging and crying over stuff that has not yet been released/ revealed. All you are doing is guesswork and repeating the same circle jerk others vomited countless times.
    It’s pointless to argue with you.

    You don’t know what I truly think about the game, nor do you understand how I feel about the many opinions here. I joke around here and there, but honestly, no one really has to care about my opinion, and that’s totally fine. It doesn’t need to please you or anyone else. It’s mine, and that’s that. But of course, it’s much easier to accuse me of things to make yourself look better. I quote: All you do is put others in boxes and dismiss any arguments just because they don’t fit your bubble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Oh really? P8s would like to have a word with you then.
    Wait, when in P8S?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Wait, when in P8S?
    he is probably talking about the knockback dog in p1 that literally cucks every role and not just melee.
    But this mechanic got skipped by groups with hands once ppl got gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi View Post
    he is probably talking about the knockback dog in p1 that literally cucks every role and not just melee.
    But this mechanic got skipped by groups with hands once ppl got gear
    Oh yeah. Every role. So irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Isn't the point that phys ranged deal less damage because they don't need to worry about uptime or positionals? Their current damage seems alright to me.
    This is probably why AFTER taking uptime and positionals into consideration, phys ranged still deals abyssmally less damage. Across every boss content (trials, raids, ultimates). I'm sure this makes sense somewhere but not in my head.


    ( This is a cDPS chart on current savages, the bread and butter of balance with the most accurate metric )
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    Last edited by Valence; 03-25-2025 at 07:32 AM.

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