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    Kaliesto's Avatar
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 100

    I don't want Pictomancer to be nerfed for one reason

    The dungeons

    This one job has gotten me through dungeons so fast, and even on trusts that it staved off the entire boredom these dungeons have become.

    Can't believe people asked for this.

    You all know these dungeons are sleep-inducing, but now I guess I'll be nodding off half-asleep again.


    If these dungeons were not so homogenized, predictable, and just downright too easy I wouldn't care about the nerf.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 03-24-2025 at 02:16 AM.

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    CCheshire's Avatar
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    Black Tea
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    Marilith
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    Arcanist Lv 30
    Well since I moved over to PCT in DT I feel like it's too early to tell and yes I will miss it once it's gone too.
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Better to be nerfed then have your class identity took away
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    Altera's Avatar
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    Chandani Aranka
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    Odin
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    PCT should have been nerfed within a month. People have already said before DT came out when people who was at the media tour said they noticed they've buffed the PCT on launch and that the media tour was already strong.

    I would take a nerf any day over what they are doing to BLM. And I feel the change to BLM is because of PCT, which makes me hate that job even more.
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    Rithy255's Avatar
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    PCT should have been nerfed within a month. People have already said before DT came out when people who was at the media tour said they noticed they've buffed the PCT on launch and that the media tour was already strong.

    I would take a nerf any day over what they are doing to BLM. And I feel the change to BLM is because of PCT, which makes me hate that job even more.
    What I find odd is how they mentioned pictomancer getting nerfs like it's a massive deal to reduce potency, but didn't really consider to even mention black mage changes that ruin the class identity

    Comes across as tone deaf, like I really don't care if jobs get potency nerfs when deserved what I care about is taking away what makes a class feel unique in the first place.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Possibly hot take, but PCT is literally the new EW SMN but boosted on steroids in dungeons. Any job that is frontloaded to hell and beyond will clean up everything since it can ignore half of the downtime between pulls with its damage profile, and to make things even worst, like NIN it can reset everything between pulls (except the actual recast on muses, thank fuck). I hate that Nin can do this, and I hate that PCT can as well. I don't hate the idea that the job is about painting motifs, it's part of its identity, it's why people like it as well, but making instant paints out of combat by just pressing a button is wrong, and on top of it you're not even spending time painting like in combat. It's cheap, and it ruins runs even more because the PCT mows down everything before you can even reach half of your burst sequence, and you feel somewhat robbed one pull out of two. Incidentally also what makes it batshit in deep dungeons as well.

    I'm all for PCT to be adjusted, and more importantly keeping its identity. But the instant redrawing between pulls is a blight. Make them work their asses redrawing, it's part of the cast times of the job.
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  7. #7
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    brinn12's Avatar
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    Lua Navkov
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    The devs should remove every wall outside of boss fights. Problem solved
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Possibly hot take, but PCT is literally the new EW SMN but boosted on steroids in dungeons. Any job that is frontloaded to hell and beyond will clean up everything since it can ignore half of the downtime between pulls with its damage profile, and to make things even worst, like NIN it can reset everything between pulls (except the actual recast on muses, thank fuck). I hate that Nin can do this, and I hate that PCT can as well. I don't hate the idea that the job is about painting motifs, it's part of its identity, it's why people like it as well, but making instant paints out of combat by just pressing a button is wrong, and on top of it you're not even spending time painting like in combat. It's cheap, and it ruins runs even more because the PCT mows down everything before you can even reach half of your burst sequence, and you feel somewhat robbed one pull out of two. Incidentally also what makes it batshit in deep dungeons as well.

    I'm all for PCT to be adjusted, and more importantly keeping its identity. But the instant redrawing between pulls is a blight. Make them work their asses redrawing, it's part of the cast times of the job.
    PCT identity around motifs is storing casts for later use, the reason why they are instant outside of combat is so the PCT doesn’t stand still for 15 seconds after the pull ends casting all their motifs before running to the next boss achieving the same thing but wasting people’s time standing around

    All bursts are a mess in DT because the burst window is so long and the trash is so weak, I can’t count the number of times the pack dies before I spend my hyperphantasia stacks because PCT’s burst is so long
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    What I find odd is how they mentioned pictomancer getting nerfs like it's a massive deal to reduce potency, but didn't really consider to even mention black mage changes that ruin the class identity

    Comes across as tone deaf, like I really don't care if jobs get potency nerfs when deserved what I care about is taking away what makes a class feel unique in the first place.
    Because their goal is always catering to the uber casual demographic. The hope is more players will pick up BLM now that it's getting the dumbed down treatment whereas nerfing a job rarely makes the people playing said job happy, regardless of their skill level.

    Basically, Picto's nerf impacts everyone while BLM's changes only impacts the higher end to midcore players whom they care a lot less about.
    (2)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    Balder Heavenchild
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    Shiva
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    Paladin Lv 90
    https://youtu.be/PzaOTnlxynI?si=vvFYsiMKxgpWYxK9

    This is a really good video about why nerfing pictomancer is not that easy. To balance it even more, you can't just change some numbers. Picto is just very strong on bosses with downtime. So, to balance it more, it must be homogenized and you have to take its job identity away. :c

    They should communicate such stuff in their live letters more, instead of showing us expensive merch. :x
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    Last edited by Heavenchild; 03-24-2025 at 08:27 AM.

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