"Target Enemy Party, Member X" keybinds: Godsend for controller players?

[Loggos]

From the patch notes:

The following keybindings have been added, allowing the direct targeting of opposing players:

• Target Enemy Party, Member 1
• Target Enemy Party, Member 2
• Target Enemy Party, Member 3
• Target Enemy Party, Member 4
• Target Enemy Party, Member 5

If those keybinds work like I imagine/hope then they are a game-changer for controller player like me who are terrible with tab targeting (or L1 + D-pad up/down, or staring your enemy deeply into the eyes before pressing X).

This is the kind of QoL I've been sorely missing (how many marked or low-health enemies have I missed because I couldn't circle to them fast enough before they got away - skill issue? Perhaps, but I'll take those keybind crutches any day with no shame).

I'm glad the devs added something that (on paper) sounds so useful and I have hope it'll finally remove (or at least lessen) the big headache and constant source of frustration that is controller targeting.

(Or tab targeting on M/KB if you don't like clicking on the enemy party list.)

[Valence]

You could already make macros for this, but it's good they include something natively into the game keybinds for it. Playing CC at a serious level without a macro selecting Target 1 is really shooting yourself in the foot because you can't reliably follow on burst callouts.

[Loggos]

You could already make macros for this

Oh damn, the fact that I didn't know this is very telling. xD But yeah, for people like me who are not aware of it simplified keybinds like this are a big help.

[Loggos]

You could already make macros for this, but it's good they include something natively into the game keybinds for it. Playing CC at a serious level without a macro selecting Target 1 is really shooting yourself in the foot because you can't reliably follow on burst callouts.

I need to take you up on this point again but do you know how to make those macros (or where to find resources on them)? Because I don't find any text commands of that sort ("Target Enemy 1 in the enemy party list").
I only know those "indirect" solutions. I.e. target enemy who's attacking you, target enemy closest to you, target your target's target, etc. But no direct "target enemy nr. 1 in the list".

Because I'm an idiot and my brain mixed up "keybinds" with "macros" asdfjkshgfjk. orz

Stupidly, I thought I could create macros with new text commands that allow for precise enemy targeting. But no, it's only for keyboard. x__x

Is there any way to create a keybind on your keyboard (e.g., "Target enemy 1" on the key "1"), then turn this into a macro and then put that macro on my cross hotbar?

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Bit of a rant for the devs, feel free to ignore.

Edit: I found the target placeholders for CC enemies and with them you can create the macros I had hoped for so that is amazing and I take back most of my rant.

The point I want to stick with is that I still think they should add ready-made hotbar commands for "Target Enemy X in the CC enemy list" like they did with the new "Target Enemy marked with X" actions in the "General Action" menu, simply for the sake of player friendliness.

Lots of players that have little experience with macros will most likely not figure out on their own how to create those macros by themselves. They will probably not even know it's possible to create them in the first place.

Making these targeting actions more obvious and accessible in the menu would still help those players a lot.

I need to take my praise for the devs back. Tbh I'm even quite annoyed now because they were *this* close to implement a simple but really meaningful solution that would have helped a lot to level the playing field for controller players.

With the new keybinds mouse and keyboard players get even more options for precise targeting while controller players are still left with their sub-par targeting tools.

I assume the concern here is that text commands can be linked with job skills and that this could be abused for skill or LB syncing, or skill chaining macros.


But in that case, please give us those new target keybinds as actions we can add to our hotbar.

In fact, the new targeting actions they added under "General" in the Actions & Traits menu add insult to injury because it shows they can give us advanced target buttons like "Target Player marked as X" that you can add to your hotbar.
(And I'll concede these are useful if somebody marks targets but it's not the same kind of individual control you need in every encounter.
Also you can't always rely on your team mates to mark enemies, esp. in lower ranks.)

We even get hotbar commands. For. Tab Targeting. The same old problem but a different button.

There's no good reason why they can't give us a hotbar action for "Target Enemy 1 in the list" then.
(Put it in the PvP profile menu for PvP actions if its too specific for the "General Action" menu.)

If it sounds like I'm malding it's because I am. : P
Targeting on controller has been my number 1 source of frustration in PvP. You can't imagine how excited I was about the idea of getting it fixed.

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I'll try to play with controller and keyboard for targeting for the time being but it's a really sub-optimal solution. Having to jump around between keyboard and controller with one hand while trying not to be too late with your job actions makes for a sub-par gaming experience.

And yeah, in terms of efficiency you could probably just switch to mouse/keyboard at that point but some players choose controllers for a reason, be it simple preference or because controllers are easier on your hands.

So please SE. Hotbar commands for targeting players in your CC enemy list.

[Valence]

/merror off
/target <attack1>
/micon "attack1" enemysign

[Loggos]

Thank you, really! Trying to comprehend the macro I found the placeholder list on the lodestone (I didn't know about it before lol) and by accident found these entries:

<e1>,<e2>,<e3>,<e4>,<e5>
Display the names of the first five players on the enemy party list when participating in Crystalline Conflict.

I don't know if they are new and were added today or if they have always been there but that is exactly what I had been hoping for haha (so I do need to take my rant from above back).
Inserted them and the resulting macros work just like I imagined.

So I need to take (most of) my rant back lol.