The 7.2 Frontline changes are EXCELLENT

[Toukichiful]

Much needed change, feel rewarding for participating now for battle high gains instead of people just getting last hits and not spreading BH out, people also actually die instead of seeing 20 people whale on a melee or tank like in EW for 30 seconds to kill them and seeing nothing die.

[USAFJerrySo]

PVP is still an unbalance trash that's heavily influence by heavy RNG; players who does the bare minimum/no effort, playing w/ netflix running in the background, cheaters, etc.

[Teno]

PVP is still an unbalance trash that's heavily influence by heavy RNG; players who does the bare minimum/no effort, playing w/ netflix running in the background, cheaters, etc.

You're talking out of your arse. Or perhaps would you care to elaborate, because as it stands it reads like pure salt.

[gidsonBrand]

Right, and even with Rampart letting some people tank ungodly amounts of damage, it just means damage amps (from role actions or base kits) are getting more love and purpose. Which is great for Sage and kinda Bard, they're more important than ever.

[Teno]

Another observation : shatter is even more garbage than before now, and it was some rotten garbage already. If you're stuck on the pve team you might as well afk, it's a pretty bad experience with the zerg nature of the mode and how everyone gets bh5 in the pvp teams. Feels like there kinda is no in-between on this map anymore now.

[Mawlzy]

Another observation : shatter is even more garbage than before now, and it was some rotten garbage already. If you're stuck on the pve team you might as well afk, it's a pretty bad experience with the zerg nature of the mode and how everyone gets bh5 in the pvp teams. Feels like there kinda is no in-between on this map anymore now.

I've only played a handful of matches on Shatter. I so dislike it I'm probably in a poor place to judge if it has become even worse. One thing I did notice in those matches is that a significant fraction of players just did not want to have anything to do with the big ice, unless it was mid and associated with actual PvP.

My guess is this is because people were still trying out the 7.2 actions and other changes. But it was sort of warming to see PvP players give the middle finger to the big ices, which are IMO a key reason the map sucks.

[Teno]

I've only played a handful of matches on Shatter. I so dislike it I'm probably in a poor place to judge if it has become even worse. One thing I did notice in those matches is that a significant fraction of players just did not want to have anything to do with the big ice, unless it was mid and associated with actual PvP.

My guess is this is because people were still trying out the 7.2 actions and other changes. But it was sort of warming to see PvP players give the middle finger to the big ices, which are IMO a key reason the map sucks.

I'd wager there are more pvp players in fl overall, more so than before 7.2 at least, so it feels much better when you have games with them. But when you get the pve game, man does it suck.

[WutWut]

New changes are indeed excellent! I have been having a blast playing bravery MCH and smite RPR! The battle-high adjustments, which I was dubious about on paper, actually work very well in practice for generating more battlehigh across the teams, leading to better fights.

[gidsonBrand]

Yeah, when we had that queue sync on Wednesday for the new Secure, it really felt like you were getting a battle high level every fight. Maybe more if you got a kill.

Plus it means you don't feel as bad for stealing a kill at BH5 and wasting 10 battle high lol, more time for the rampage