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  1. #1
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    Kohashi's Avatar
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    I'd like to hear the reasoning for this change


    I assume this is because aglaia is a popular leveling instance for levels 90-100, but... Why do you consider that a problem?

    In the notes right before that, it says the bonus experience points for the alliance duty roulette has been increased, but that's only once a day. Why was it decided to take this option away from players? If it's stressing the instance servers in some way, I could understand, but if it was just taken away because players were engaging with the game in a way you didn't like, then I think you should reconsider your decision making process

    It's probably because people who were doing it for the first time or were new to the game had issues finding a group via Matchmaking, but perhaps it's time to have another look at the Trust and improve it further. Make it actually a viable and comparable alternative.

    Thank god I no longer have to deal with this nonsense. For me at least, dungeon spam is just a miserable experience. Not one single one of them is fun to do, especially not when you have to level several jobs.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    There are two types of duties:

    "Leveling" duties, which include any duties in the following level ranges: 1-49, 51-59, 61-69, 71-79, 81-89, 91-99

    "Max Level" duties aka "High-level", which include any duties at these levels: 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100

    Leveling duties have always been designed to give lots of experience points, while max level ones don't give any until they are modified to do so after the level cap increase. The max level ones usually are not scaled to give much experience.

    So, from their perspective, it's an oversight. However, in practice, it doesn't matter and nobody really cares about the distinction. So it's odd that they have seen that as a priority over almost any other pressing issue in the game.
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Siren
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I recall hearing the bonus exp on the Azeyma Earrings apply when synced to lv90 content and spamming Aglaia was one of the fastest ways to level from lv90 and up, so it's probably in response to that
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    This is what they choose to spend time debating BTW. Not fixing the stalking plugin, not fixing Hrothgar/Viera hats, not fixing the graphic eye strain.
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    Ayumi Nishimiya
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    Phoenix
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    Sage Lv 100
    As someone who used Aglaia for leveling all of my jobs after the MSQ in Dawntrail in like a week or two,i have no horse in this race anymore but all i can say is that: "L change"

    I dont know why they are so hellbent on funneling everyone and their mother to dogwater lvl50 raids and forcing everyone to rely on daily bonuses...well i do know why they are doing it, but its still tonedeaf.

    With Aglaia, we at least had an efficient way to level up jobs we dont really like in a relatively high level, stress free environment where we could get some idea how the job actually works past level 50 and have buttons to press beyond 1-2-3.
    I mean sure we can still do that for less xp, but the more jobs we have in each expansion, leveling all of them up takes longer and longer.

    Aglaia was a nice way to somewhat "tip the scales" in our favor for once, pun definitely intended.

    Pro hint, instead of messing with stuff nobody wanted to change, remove MSQ roulette since it erves no purpose anymore and relocate that xp into 50-60-70-80-90 roulette where some dungeons really do struggle with ques. But nah robbing everyone of that peak lvl50 combat and realm reborn cutscene quality on a daily basis is unacceptable.
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    dont worry, you can spam fates in the new eureka zone as best leveling method soon enough
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    Jeanne D'altaer
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    dont worry, you can spam fates in the new eureka zone as best leveling method soon enough
    No you won't lol, it's going to require level cap jobs like Eureka.
    They only set Bozja up for leveling because ShB didn't get a Deep Dungeon, everyone is talking about how "oh they want people to actually do alliance roulette" (which - good! If you want more variety in alliance roulette, have you considered maybe unlocking raids other than Crystal Tower and level 90 Crystal Tower btw?) but the real thing they are obsessed with pushing people towards as a source of leveling is Deep Dungeons. I'll never understand why that seems to be the one corner of side content that gets pushed so hard...
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Phoenix
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaltaer View Post
    No you won't lol, it's going to require level cap jobs like Eureka.
    They only set Bozja up for leveling because ShB didn't get a Deep Dungeon, everyone is talking about how "oh they want people to actually do alliance roulette" (which - good! If you want more variety in alliance roulette, have you considered maybe unlocking raids other than Crystal Tower and level 90 Crystal Tower btw?) but the real thing they are obsessed with pushing people towards as a source of leveling is Deep Dungeons. I'll never understand why that seems to be the one corner of side content that gets pushed so hard...
    Previous deep dungeon xp was so bad, you better stay inside bozja till 90. If we ever get dt deep dungeon, it will die fast just like eureka orthos.
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    Nao Sen
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    dont worry, you can spam fates in the new eureka zone as best leveling method soon enough
    You have to be level 100 to enter and it's a completely separate exp system, it isn't possible to use it for levelling other jobs.
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Not really too baffling at all, there is a new Deep Dungeon coming in 7.3, gotta keep ppl from hitting 100 too fast on alt jobs or it will be as dead as the last one. And you know SE, they want you to play how they want you to play, not how you want to.
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