Dungeons: Moment or Location

[Espon]

If any dungeons seem to exist in the moment, it's the ones that show you the past. It was cool when we were running through Amaurot, but now it's overdone. The Dead Ends, The Stigma Dreamscape, The Lunar Subterrane, and Alexandria are all guilty of this. After you've done them once, it's like being forced to rewatch cutscenes while beating up easy enemies.

[Valence]

If dungeons are so disconnected, what about the raids and trials and their single boss standing in the middle of a random circle arena?

[JohnLakeside]

If dungeons are so disconnected, what about the raids and trials and their single boss standing in the middle of a random circle arena?

One reason why I found it so fricking hard to get emotionally invested in the Eden Raids. There was no sense of place or setting. It was just, "Okay lets teleport to xyz location to fight your memories of primals...or something like that."

[Valence]

The Scions have always been cardboard pieces of paper and walking tropes that do act more like robots and less like humans tbh, with only too little exceptions. No matter the expansion.

[MoofiaBossVal]

The main issue with the Scions is that they feel like a modern JRPG party, in that they are glued together rather than feeling like real people. In Trails in the Sky, you have people coming to and fro, weaving in and out of your party and going where their motivations take them. In Dragon Age Origins, you have party members that have disagreements with each other and will leave over them. In FF14, the characters who feel the most real are the Heavensward and Stormblood locals like Estinien and Gosetsu. They are in the party not because they are your party members like the Scions, but because for the moment your motivations are intersecting. They are on a mission of their own, and they are allowed to express disagreement.