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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Like the last page was basically someone going “FC’s fall apart, content has always been bad for FC’s, it’s just how it is”. Like how do you respond to that? Whether you read that as resignation or spirited defence to someone who wants the game to be better that stance is just hilariously dismissive
    They were saying FCs being inactive and players getting lethargic is normal. If you must respond, respond by asking for evidence or providing counter-evidence. Keep it a conversation instead of turning it into a fight. So many people here (not you specifically) are so quick to insults, it creates a real bad atmosphere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auro_Seldaris View Post
    What's with you people and calling everyone you don't agree with "black knights"? Can't you just talk like normal people without using these dismissive labels all the time?
    Have you found any examples of "laser-focused, good-faith critique" of Dawntrail getting buried in an avalanche of simplistic "I LIKED IT!" or "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, A DOOMPOSTER, A TROLL." You said there were loads in the forums and you just needed time to find one. No luck?
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    Remember not to respond to ragebaiting trolls
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVXIV View Post
    I think it's disingenuous to say that Deep Dungeons can be soloed as if that isn't very challenging to do and that most players aren't going to do that. I also don't think Variant Dungeons encouraged people to play solo, it just gives you the option to do so if you want

    unless you're saying the fact it's an option is bad?
    Uhm... it CAN be soloed, I know people who did it, so what do you want me to correct here? I never said it's mandatory, but you sure as heck do not need 4 people to complete it. It's also not content that thrives from doing it with others like an exploration zone does. That's the point of my response.

    And I did Variant Dungeons completely solo, all of them, because I could.

    I don't really know what the purpose of your response is supposed to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    Deep Dungeons weren't an Endwalker addition. Variant dungeons aren't solo content. And making the game more solo friendly is a symptom not a disease.
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    There was a new Deep Dungeon added in Endwalker: Eureka Orthos.
    Variant dungeons can be soloed, there is no incentive to do it with others, I personally completed them solo.
    Hope that helps.
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    Last edited by Mondschnee; 03-19-2025 at 01:31 AM.

  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    They were saying FCs being inactive and players getting lethargic is normal. If you must respond, respond by asking for evidence or providing counter-evidence. Keep it a conversation instead of turning it into a fight. So many people here (not you specifically) are so quick to insults, it creates a real bad atmosphere.
    So I provided counter evidence that PVM focused FC’s were suffering under EW content design which they replied with “that’s a lot of baloney” and somehow I’m the problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    No you didn't, you had your own use for your FC that you made up. It had nothing to do with SE's design.
    So a PVM focused FC is not part of Square’s design. That’s literally what they are sold as. Anything that focused on PVM suffered in EW compared to the older expansions, that’s straight up due to their change in content direction
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 03-19-2025 at 01:31 AM.

  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    So a PVM focused FC is not part of Square’s design. That’s literally what they are sold as. Anything that focused on PVM suffered in EW compared to the older expansions, that’s straight up due to their change in content direction
    There is no benefit or incentive to doing anything with an FC over a linkshell or a PF. Your FC that "runs content blind and then builds optimization strategies" isn't part of SE's design, that's you making up a reason to have a FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    Deep Dungeons weren't an Endwalker addition. Variant dungeons aren't solo content. And making the game more solo friendly is a symptom not a disease.
    No you didn't, you had your own use for your FC that you made up. It had nothing to do with SE's design.
    imo if SE going to make content can not be solo, then there have to be a incentive for players to return to those content like roulette.

    Many of those content become dead content, like Eureka and those 24 Bozja. Even Eureka Orthos taking sometime to fill up in PF

    Duty support is actually a good system, people could still queue like normal or as a party, players with limited time could just use duty support to help with queue time

    I agree it is up to thr FC to find content to do and I admit issue is lack of content in general, reduce soloable content will not solve the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    There is no benefit or incentive to doing anything with an FC over a linkshell or a PF. Your FC that "runs content blind and then builds optimization strategies" isn't part of SE's design, that's you making up a reason to have a FC.
    Are you really arguing the point that if there isn’t in game incentives to run content specifically with the FC then by design the FC is inherently pointless

    Genuinely what MMO that has guilds or clans or whatever provides large scale tangible benefits (ie beyond things like FC buffs and extra storage space) to running content that is specifically within your own clan because this seems like arguing a pointless point. All MMO’s use clans as a gathering of like minded people to achieve some form of collective goal or just to have a sense of community. When you edit content design that a very large proportion of clans are built around then it changes the dynamic

    EW’s content design hurt all avenues of PVM whether they be FC’s linkshells or PF. I don’t really see how FC’s not having a single defined purpose as laid out by square disproves this in any way because by that logic everything is inherently useless
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    So I provided counter evidence that PVM focused FC’s were suffering under EW content design which they replied with “that’s a lot of baloney” and somehow I’m the problem
    I'm obviously not taking about you with my general statement "you people etc etc". I realize my post was immediately after yours but yours didn't mention white knights and I didn't quote you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Are you really arguing the point that if there isn’t in game incentives to run content specifically with the FC then by design the FC is inherently pointless

    Genuinely what MMO that has guilds or clans or whatever provides large scale tangible benefits (ie beyond things like FC buffs and extra storage space) to running content that is specifically within your own clan because this seems like arguing a pointless point. All MMO’s use clans as a gathering of like minded people to achieve some form of collective goal or just to have a sense of community. When you edit content design that a very large proportion of clans are built around then it changes the dynamic

    EW’s content design hurt all avenues of PVM whether they be FC’s linkshells or PF. I don’t really see how FC’s not having a single defined purpose as laid out by square disproves this in any way because by that logic everything is inherently useless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondschnee View Post
    Uhm... it CAN be soloed, I know people who did it, so what do you want me to correct here? I never said it's mandatory, but you sure as heck do not need 4 people to complete it. It's also not content that thrives from doing it with others like an exploration zone does. That's the point of my response.

    And I did Variant Dungeons completely solo, all of them, because I could.

    I don't really know what the purpose of your response is supposed to be.


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    There was a new Deep Dungeon added in Endwalker: Eureka Orthos.
    Variant dungeons can be soloed, there is no incentive to do it with others, I personally completed them solo.
    Hope that helps.
    Just because you can do it solo, why would you then assume most players would?
    I know you can solo deep dungeons, I even said so in my post because I found it very dismissive as if it's an easy thing to do and that your average player would just happen to do it
    It's something I'm personally working toward because I find the prospect of the challenge fun

    I know Variants can also be done solo, as I did them that way myself
    Again, it's likely not the standard way players are going to approach it

    that's why I then asked if the fact the option is there is the problem and how the game encourages people to play solo
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