I think we should split PC From Console

[Rinoa_353]

Ps4 is not the problem you think it is

It actually is, it's a 12 year old console that's been outdated since 2020. Rumors say it will be dropped for 8.0 and I hope it does, PS5's are affordable now, especially in the used market.

[zipkin]

A lot of the folks I play with use console, so it may be with some bias that I say it, but I don't feel like splitting the community to that degree is the best option. Perhaps, as which happens with older PCs, as time goes on the outdated consoles might get left behind, but I wouldn't want to see them dropped or split-off entirely. If/when PS4 support does end, I hope they'll offer those players an update option to PS5 rather than having to re-buy the whole game they already own.

totally, which is why accessibility have been their highest priority (simplfified jobs and enchancing the solo experience)

I hear what you're saying about content being simplified, and I don't think 'accessibility' is the real reason unfortunately. Actual attempts to address accessibility issues have been steadily ignored, even though we've followed the directions we were given for how to report the problems. Content and classes being simplified? Yeah, for sure. Is it out of a concern for accessibility? At this point I seriously doubt it.

[Fellgon]

[QUOTE=zipkin;6676603]A lot of the folks I play with use console, so it may be with some bias that I say it, but I don't feel like splitting the community to that degree is the best option. Perhaps, as which happens with older PCs, as time goes on the outdated consoles might get left behind, but I wouldn't want to see them dropped or split-off entirely. If/when PS4 support does end, I hope they'll offer those players an update option to PS5 rather than having to re-buy the whole game they already own.

Yes yoshi p helped PS5 gamers with free update of final fantasy 14 game. If you have the game on ps4 you have same game on ps5.

[Kandraxx]

That's why Blizzard never released WoW for consoles, even tho there was high demand. They would have needed to dumb the game down so hard that in the end it would have killed it.

It's not just graphics, also the whole systems, classes, loot tables, mechanics, UI interface, dungeons, bosses and so on need to be dumbed down hard to make a console being able to handle it.

But I can't see a japanese company doing a PC-only MMO, seeing that PC gaming in Japan historically has a bad aftertaste.

[Gunz_Zbestest]

Most likely they will drop support for PS4 with 8.0 in 1.5-2 years ish.

People act like console just got here since Xbox arrived. I've been playing since 2.0 ARR on my ps3 and when they drop support for the ps5, I'll buy a ps6

[AvoSturmfaust]

That's why Blizzard never released WoW for consoles, even tho there was high demand. They would have needed to dumb the game down so hard that in the end it would have killed it.

It's not just graphics, also the whole systems, classes, loot tables, mechanics, UI interface, dungeons, bosses and so on need to be dumbed down hard to make a console being able to handle it.

But I can't see a japanese company doing a PC-only MMO, seeing that PC gaming in Japan historically has a bad aftertaste.

Thats not even true, Blizzard wont release it because Blizzard is dumb as fuck, theres is already a MOD which implent the Controllersupport and its for a Mod incredible good and works really good, played alot with it, Blizzard is just lazy and dumb

[Tint]

It's not just graphics, also the whole systems, classes, loot tables, mechanics, UI interface, dungeons, bosses and so on need to be dumbed down hard to make a console being able to handle it.

I would say the game is dumbed down for PC players. Tab targeting is not a console game design, consoles brought us games like Monster Hunter and Dark Souls. Dragon's Dogma is an open world RPG which was designed for console with fantastic class design.

Well I have never played FF11 or Phantasy Star Online, but Phantasy Star Portable 2 was a fantastic game with good gameplay, loot, bosses and dungeons on the freaking PSP.

What are you even talking about?

[Nero-Voidstails]

I would say the game is dumbed down for PC players. Tab targeting is not a console game design, consoles brought us games like Monster Hunter and Dark Souls. Dragon's Dogma is an open world RPG which was designed for console with fantastic class design.

Well I have never played FF11 or Phantasy Star Online, but Phantasy Star Portable 2 was a fantastic game with good gameplay, loot, bosses and dungeons on the freaking PSP.

What are you even talking about?

it's what PC Master race think and believe like with how PC are expensive they think they should be the focus and not console. most game a made with ps5 in mind then get a adaptation on other console and PC.

[SongOfTheWind]

It actually is, it's a 12 year old console that's been outdated since 2020. Rumors say it will be dropped for 8.0 and I hope it does, PS5's are affordable now, especially in the used market.

You are saying this as if pc low spec support doesn’t exist. Ps4 is not the lowest margin they have. Games are still released on ps4, pretty silly for an outdated console? SE won’t make ff14 into some magical next gen just if they drop ps4. It’s quite obvious they don’t use the whole capacity of it even now, and that’s cause their internal engine is lacking, even after supposedly being upgraded in places.

[Misutoraru]

I would say the game is dumbed down for PC players. Tab targeting is not a console game design, consoles brought us games like Monster Hunter and Dark Souls. Dragon's Dogma is an open world RPG which was designed for console with fantastic class design.

Well I have never played FF11 or Phantasy Star Online, but Phantasy Star Portable 2 was a fantastic game with good gameplay, loot, bosses and dungeons on the freaking PSP.

What are you even talking about?

The very original PSO was a Dream cast release, if my memory serves me right, only until PSOBB we start seeing PC version

Anyway, splitting PC and console on FFXIV is a very poor idea