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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I mean sure, it's great they found something they are enjoying and I know people as you describe but not one of them ever said, "FF14 devs / yoshi-p should cater JUST to my needs or focus on that because it's what I like best or because I am the majority"

    Also, there is a difference between I do this content because I enjoy it and I do it because it's stress-free. If you avoid something because it's too "stressful" you are clearly living in fear. Also, how can one determine they will not enjoy doing something if they never tried it at least a few times or for a while?
    Dude. I just don't like savage raids and ultimate. It's not for me. I also struggle with memory issues. I can do a dungeon, trial and raid multiple times and I will never remember the mechanics due to short-term memory problems. Living in fear? I don't give two flying f--ks about difficult content. Let me be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I've played for 11 years and have never touched savage or ultimate. That's not what I play this STORY-DRIVEN MMO for. You may not be into the MSQ, but this is a Final Fantasy game through and through, and technically a single player game in an MMO wrapping. Raids and trials, etc. are not the main bread and butter of this game. I don't like even remotely challenging content. That is not why I play games. Which is for fun, not to be stressed.
    I'll be honest, this take has me a bit speechless, but maybe I'm reading too much into what you consider "remotely challenging". What do you do in this game if you don't mind me asking?

    I suppose the main reason I can't relate to your viewpoint is that to me, the challenge IS the fun. If I steamroll everything in my way, that's boring as hell. I can enjoy a good Visual Novel, but an RPG/MMORPG is not that.

    What I still don't understand though is you saying this is a FF game through and through. FF games aren't usually faceroll easy, they are RPGs where you deal with tons of stats and equip to prepare and do fights, which next to the story IS the main bread and butter of any RPG.
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    Last edited by Pokefan5; 03-20-2025 at 02:23 AM.

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    This forums are getting boring. I wanna play a game. Lets play... spot the armchair psychologist!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Also, there is a difference between I do this content because I enjoy it and I do it because it's stress-free. If you avoid something because it's too "stressful" you are clearly living in fear. Also, how can one determine they will not enjoy doing something if they never tried it at least a few times or for a while?
    There, I found one. Do I now get my BIS armor in the mail?

    But seriously: I do not like normal Trials and Raids because I do not understand half the mechanics, and dying five times in a row is not fun. So naturally I avoid game modes with even more and more complicated mechanics. And this is me living in fear? Honestly dude, this is by far the most stupid thing I've read in a while - even on this very forum.

    Oh, and BTW. You do not need to fully eat 3 super-sized turd sandwiches to find out that you do not like the taste - the first bite should be more than enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    This forums are getting boring. I wanna play a game. Lets play... spot the armchair psychologist!



    There, I found one. Do I now get my BIS armor in the mail?

    But seriously: I do not like normal Trials and Raids because I do not understand half the mechanics, and dying five times in a row is not fun. So naturally I avoid game modes with even more and more complicated mechanics. And this is me living in fear? Honestly dude, this is by far the most stupid thing I've read in a while - even on this very forum.

    Oh, and BTW. You do not need to fully eat 3 super-sized turd sandwiches to find out that you do not like the taste - the first bite should be more than enough.
    Yes. You actively avoiding challenge because you don't want to learn how to overcome the challenge is a fear. A fear of failure and a fear of learning. The former is called atychiphobia. The latter is most closely sophophobia, depending on what classification you have.

    By your own admission, you avoid those game modes because you don't "understand" half of the mechanics. Instead of wanting to learn, you avoid it. You don't want to "die 5 times," so you avoid it. You don't want to fail to an extent so extreme that you avoid situations where you might.

    You're legit afraid dawg.

    As for your analogy at the end there. Shit sandwich isn't a good example for you. You should have used broccoli. Many small, tiny little baby children hate broccoli. But, as adults, we realize that our aversions as children might not be valid as we grow and develop. Thus, broccoli might be on the menu as we mature.

    Unless your parents fail you and allow you to be a picky eater.
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    The numbers will continue to decline until proper amounts of casual and midcore content is added. No amount of coping and arguing will change that. SE and CBU3 as businessmen know to follow the money, so lets see if they can turn things around. Not like they read the English forums anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubmarineAlt View Post
    Yes. You actively avoiding challenge because you don't want to learn how to overcome the challenge is a fear. A fear of failure and a fear of learning. The former is called atychiphobia. The latter is most closely sophophobia, depending on what classification you have.

    By your own admission, you avoid those game modes because you don't "understand" half of the mechanics. Instead of wanting to learn, you avoid it. You don't want to "die 5 times," so you avoid it. You don't want to fail to an extent so extreme that you avoid situations where you might.

    You're legit afraid dawg.

    As for your analogy at the end there. Shit sandwich isn't a good example for you. You should have used broccoli. Many small, tiny little baby children hate broccoli. But, as adults, we realize that our aversions as children might not be valid as we grow and develop. Thus, broccoli might be on the menu as we mature.

    Unless your parents fail you and allow you to be a picky eater.
    Some people also don't wanna raid because of people like, well, you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    This forums are getting boring. I wanna play a game. Lets play... spot the armchair psychologist!



    There, I found one. Do I now get my BIS armor in the mail?

    But seriously: I do not like normal Trials and Raids because I do not understand half the mechanics, and dying five times in a row is not fun. So naturally I avoid game modes with even more and more complicated mechanics. And this is me living in fear? Honestly dude, this is by far the most stupid thing I've read in a while - even on this very forum.

    Oh, and BTW. You do not need to fully eat 3 super-sized turd sandwiches to find out that you do not like the taste - the first bite should be more than enough.
    Nobody, and let me repeat that, NOBODY, goes first time in a fight and has everything figured out.

    And how is the obvious avoidance of failure not fear? You sit there in your corner, finding a million excuses than actively fail and get better in the process. Keep coping..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    And how is the obvious avoidance of failure not fear? You sit there in your corner, finding a million excuses than actively fail and get better in the process. Keep coping..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokefan5 View Post
    I'll be honest, this take has me a bit speechless, but maybe I'm reading too much into what you consider "remotely challenging". What do you do in this game if you don't mind me asking?

    I suppose the main reason I can't relate to your viewpoint is that to me, the challenge IS the fun. If I steamroll everything in my way, that's boring as hell. I can enjoy a good Visual Novel, but an RPG/MMORPG is not that.

    What I still don't understand though is you saying this is a FF game through and through. FF games aren't usually faceroll easy, they are RPGs where you deal with tons of stats and equip to prepare and do fights, which next to the story IS the main bread and butter of any RPG.
    Things I do for fun? Hmm. Well, I will do the normal trials, raids and alliance. I gather and craft religiously. I enjoy decorating my house. I enjoy MSQ. Anything considered casual, is for me. I don't see why it's so baffling I have zero interest in extremes, savages, ultimate or chaotic. Being stressed and trying not to die 24/7 isn't my jam. I play this game to relax. Raiders and high end players on here treat it like a full time job. I don't give a damn about strategies and raid plans and guides and all the crazy preps and watching videos, etc. It isn't for me. The end.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    Nobody, and let me repeat that, NOBODY, goes first time in a fight and has everything figured out.

    And how is the obvious avoidance of failure not fear? You sit there in your corner, finding a million excuses than actively fail and get better in the process. Keep coping..
    I don't understand why you find it so baffling some folks don't want to do savage raids, extremes and ultimate. What YOU find fun, many don't. Like get the heck over it and move on sweetie.
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