Rivenroad (Hard) Discussion and Strategies Thread

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I still think it's patently wrong for Yoshi to have done this - withholding the White Ravens for people who win the Hard Mode fight.

XI *always* rewarded you with some nifty accessory at the end of each story arc. Honestly, the ravens feel about on the level with Rajas Ring - but CoP wasn't nearly so brutal in totality. Hard & punishing in parts, but nothing that couldn't really be dealt with by a good group and preparation. It didn't require absolute flawless execution at every moment with every single action, leaving zero room for mistakes. It didn't force force people to have omgwtfpwnzor equipment just to stand a chance.

And then there's the time limit to even attempt this, the biggest slap in the face of all. Nice way to show appreciation for everyone who was dedicated enough to see the story through to the end. If the ravens were on the power level of say a relic weapon, then I wouldn't really be taking any issue here - a fight this hard warrants an equally strong reward, or a commemorative achievement & unique title.

THAT is what they should have done. Give everyone who beat the main scenario the Ravens, and let the hardcore crowd attempt the Hard Mode fight for their e-peen achievement/titles - kind of like how with FFXI they added the "Afterglow" effects to the 99 relics as a final upgrade that required an insane amount of work (of course, this only came about AFTER people rightly cussed Tanaka out for making the quest too hard in the first place, and so they separated the final weapon stats and afterglow bonus into 2 separate quests).

Hell, for a fight this hard they should have handed out D Rings.

I knew people that were stuck on 6-4 CoP for like a year. "Hard" is a relative term, and in a months time I am sure we will be seeing plenty of people that have the earring, just like two months ago it was absurd to think that a large portion of the population would end up having a relic. and months before that it was absurd to see pickup parties doing speed run CC and AVs, and months before that it was absurd to see people in linkshells that werent the absolute best doing speed run Darkholds, ifrits, moogles etc.

If you played ffxi I am sure you are familiar with all of the difficult fights they had that rewarded items like this that weren't apart of the main story. A little thing called divine might comes to mind, it was optional and in no way influenced the story if you didn't do it, it was hard as shit, and it gave you an earring. How about that?

[Deceptistar]

If you played ffxi I am sure you are familiar with all of the difficult fights they had that rewarded items like this that weren't apart of the main story. A little thing called divine might comes to mind, it was optional and in no way influenced the story if you didn't do it, it was hard as shit, and it gave you an earring. How about that?

Divine Might > riven man


the awesomeness felt just does not compare regardless the rewards here