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  1. #11
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    MikkoAkure's Avatar
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Yoshida referred to the Deep Dungeon as "the levelling content" in the interview, so I found it strange that such content would be added so late in the expansion.
    Every single Deep Dungeon was added in X.35 patch, so it's not really a surprise. Especially with how the devs typically stick to the formula. If anything, it's a surprise we're getting Field Operations this early since it came later in ShB and we're not due to get as many zones as SB.
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    Alice Roseblossom
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Not having a good way to level until over a year into the expansion is certainly a decision.
    Tbf that was the same for Bozja. Bozja was not 5.2 content. It was 5.3. I do agree with you, but it's not like it's a new thing.
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  3. #13
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    Phoebe Iris
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    All leveling methods will inevitably become boring, whether it’s Roulettes, FATE grinding, Deep Dungeon, or Bozja/Field Operations. When you’re forced to repeat any activity endlessly, it loses appeal.

    That said, I believe the new Field Operations don’t allow leveling to prevent them from overlapping with thew new Deep Dungeon that is coming out. Though Deep Dungeon wasn’t even the best leveling method in Endwalker, who knows? More likely, SE didn’t want another Bozja situation, which was so overtuned that it remained the best way to level even into the next expansion. I think their goal isn’t to create one “optimal” leveling method but to keep all methods equally viable.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

  4. #14
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Not having a good way to level until over a year into the expansion is certainly a decision.
    We don't have FATEs, roulettes, daily Hunts, and didn't get the battle society in 7.1?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZUZ View Post
    It's great that those who want deep dungeon are getting what they want, but it's just not for me and it doesn't feel like a proper leveling alternative. I don't get why people say there are other ways to level jobs, like daily hunt bills and FATE farming, when none of them are actually fun.
    You're literally FATE farming in Bozja. Don't be fooled by calling them Skirmishes.
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 03-15-2025 at 11:02 AM.

  5. #15
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    Wilford111's Avatar
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    Faux Ears
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Not having a good way to level until over a year into the expansion is certainly a decision.
    Not having every job at level 100 a year into the expansion is certainly a decision.
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  6. #16
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    CVXIV's Avatar
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    Cyrus Vincere
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    Malboro
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Maybe I should rephrase what I said.

    Yoshida referred to the Deep Dungeon as "the levelling content" in the interview, so I found it strange that such content would be added so late in the expansion.

    I personally don't have much of an issue with levelling in this game. Roulettes are alright, and I think some people are in too much of a rush to reach max level. It would be nice to have something less tedious and repetitive than overworld FATEs that isn't daily limited, but still.
    I understood what you meant and I agree with you
    It's being advertised as the way to level in Dawntrail, but I myself have already maxed everything just by doing dailies and whatever else in the meantime. It'd be nice if something like that was implemented sooner, if it's supposed to be the intended/premium way to level up.

    I will admit it's not entirely necessary either, and obviously I could've put off leveling other jobs until this stuff came out, but having to wait so long for it isn't good. It's nice to be able to simultaneously level a job and farm aetherpool
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  7. #17
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    Pyrrus's Avatar
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    Haze Quickblade
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    My two cents: I agree that I wish Occult would be a 91-100 with a sync up to 100 even though I won't need it.

    By the time it comes out, I won't need it to level anything, but I'd still like it since I recognize that if people are using the place to level their classes then it means more people will be participating now and down the line. Bozja is still very active to this day because a lot of people use it to level and it makes for a fun community. If it weren't for people leveling, I don't think it would be nearly as active as it is now, so that aspect really helps people who are late to the game but want old relics as well as people who just enjoy the content to have more people to do things with. Honestly Bozja is one of the few places where I've actually felt like the game has a community doing content at. I did 16 of the classes from 71-90 in there due to it feeling more community based. I know Eureka is still active because it is good for gil, so let us hope that Occult is too so people have reason to do it still several patches later or even next expac.

    For those saying Deep Dungeon is the leveling thing. It is, but why can't both be to offer people different options?
    I personally like the community aspect, seeing familiar faces, and chatting people up in Bozja while waiting for events to start more than I enjoy spamming the same floors of a DD with people I'll likely never see again in my lifetime. And offering both is a nice way for people to get to pick what they want to do and help them not get bored since they could bounce between.

    Ultimately, I think it would have been nice, but it is definitely too late for a change like that (or it would be a miracle if they changed it).
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  8. #18
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrrus View Post
    By the time it comes out, I won't need it to level anything, but I'd still like it since I recognize that if people are using the place to level their classes then it means more people will be participating now and down the line. Bozja is still very active to this day because a lot of people use it to level and it makes for a fun community. If it weren't for people leveling, I don't think it would be nearly as active as it is now, so that aspect really helps people who are late to the game but want old relics as well as people who just enjoy the content to have more people to do things with.
    This aspect might help with having more people there doing FATEs for levels but unfortunately this sort of usage for leveling classes actually hurts people trying to do relics later. I was trying to help friends get through Bozja in early DT and everyone was so concerned just leveling their PCT and VPR there, they would ignore CLL when it popped. You have to do CLL to continue the relic questline.
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  9. #19
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    No i dont want exp in endgame, it lures in the wrong ppl... give me endgame rewards.
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  10. #20
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Remarus View Post
    Yeah- uh- XP in Bozja was nice, but we didn't have XP in Eureka and it wasn't a problem there either. I am not a powergamer, and I maxed all my combat jobs this time around by doing Pelupelu quests daily and a single frontline + leveling roulette. I don't know what they did in DT, but it's far easier to max jobs from 90-100 than it was in ShB or EW in their level ranges.
    Yeah, I hit all jobs to 100 last month. And I wasn't even trying that hard. Feels like 75% of my leveling was done just trying to get my trusts to level 100 and get Pelupelu maxed out.
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