Devs, please reconsider experience in the Occult Crescent

[Davixxa]

Not having a good way to level until over a year into the expansion is certainly a decision.

Tbf that was the same for Bozja. Bozja was not 5.2 content. It was 5.3. I do agree with you, but it's not like it's a new thing.

[TaleraRistain]

Not having a good way to level until over a year into the expansion is certainly a decision.

We don't have FATEs, roulettes, daily Hunts, and didn't get the battle society in 7.1?

It's great that those who want deep dungeon are getting what they want, but it's just not for me and it doesn't feel like a proper leveling alternative. I don't get why people say there are other ways to level jobs, like daily hunt bills and FATE farming, when none of them are actually fun.

You're literally FATE farming in Bozja. Don't be fooled by calling them Skirmishes.

[Wilford111]

Not having a good way to level until over a year into the expansion is certainly a decision.

Not having every job at level 100 a year into the expansion is certainly a decision.

[Gurgeh]

I think they ended up doing this because we're also going to have a Deep Dungeon. Deep Dungeon is what you'll be able to use to level up. Not a bad idea, since PotD to this day stays populated thanks to it.

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There is another "can't get past level 30 without a static" deep dungeon coming!!
I can't even do HoH because the few people I've met (few because I'm now "playing other games") are limited by their focus on Savage.
Is there going to be 'any' challenging content that is fun to just queue casually?
So far for an entire expansion, all I've had is 4 normals (no reason to do more than once, I dint need the gear for savage), and 3 extremes (so much fun to clear, but just horrible to repeat with moody farm PFs, even more horrible by the time your on tedious umpteenth pull off the same 1 boss for the 30th day that week)
Yeah if this game can't keep my casual social groups subbed year round, this game is just not for me or my friends. Which by definition I am fine with. But is this really all the ambition that square has?
I am now blaming square and not CB3, because it is clear that they have just been spending our sub on other projects.
Profit is theirs to do with as they please, but they've been allocating ludicrously too much to profit, and not enough to cost of maintaining the game.

[Jeeqbit]

It was just due to the lack of a deep dungeon in Shadowbringers tbh.

It's easy to level jobs anyway. You have so many options. Beast tribes, FATE farming, daily hunt bills, roulettes and eventually the deep dungeon.

[Hallarem]

You can legit just idle in crystalline conflict and gain super fast exp while watching netflix. Just be active enough to try.
That combined with daily roulettes and youre golden with leveling jobs.

[yesnt]

You can legit just idle in crystalline conflict and gain super fast exp while watching netflix. Just be active enough to try.
That combined with daily roulettes and youre golden with leveling jobs.

The bait is strong with this one.

[CaptainLagbeard]

FATEs do give a decent amount of XP, and you have the weekly challenge log to do 10 FATEs for another chunk of XP.
Doing all the Roulettes gives like a minimum of 2 levels daily.
You have the combat Beast Tribe quests.

And you can always just spam dungeons to level, unless you get a bad enough group that somehow has lower DPS than a trust party it's not all that bad.

[Bonoki]

All leveling methods will inevitably become boring, whether it’s Roulettes, FATE grinding, Deep Dungeon, or Bozja/Field Operations. When you’re forced to repeat any activity endlessly, it loses appeal.

That said, I believe the new Field Operations don’t allow leveling to prevent them from overlapping with thew new Deep Dungeon that is coming out. Though Deep Dungeon wasn’t even the best leveling method in Endwalker, who knows? More likely, SE didn’t want another Bozja situation, which was so overtuned that it remained the best way to level even into the next expansion. I think their goal isn’t to create one “optimal” leveling method but to keep all methods equally viable.