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    They are gutting Black Mage even more in 7.2

    Notice how Firestarter and Thundercloud no longer have timers?



    And F4 cast time is also now lower than the GCD!



    Yeah sure guys, please keep coping that they'll finally Make Jobs Great Again (TM) in 8.0.


    ---------- Edit: Added in full list of observed changes ------------



    Keep dreaming! Everything will be braindead and homogenized and you WILL love it!
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    Last edited by User202503201232; 03-16-2025 at 09:12 AM.
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    Are you serious? shaming in a Japanese mmo? Do you realize in their culture if shammed they will (hara-kiri)(seppuku) themselves?

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    yoshi-p on that spellspeed grindset
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    BLM has been buffed to high heaven to compensate for PCT who is now getting nerfed

    At this rate BLM will be the strongest job in the game while having an internal complexity rivalling WHM minus WHM’s healing

    15/10 design
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Remember when Ruin3, Glare, Broil, Malefic, Verstone and Verfire had the full Casttime aswell?

    Fire4 1,5s Casttime in 8.0.
    Look forward to it.
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    Mike Aettir
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    To get some actual numbers, I went back.

    On the first hardcast, the cast time showed 1.48 seconds, this was under Leylines.

    Currently, at base Spell Speed, Fire 4 takes 2.8 seconds to cast, which, if we take Ley Lines into account, it would be a 2.38 second cast.

    He did hardcast Fire 4 without Ley Lines and it looked to be a 1.6second cast (though that doesn't line up with the above cast time when taking ley lines into account, but this is all rough estimate anyway).

    Most importantly though, the cast always finished before the GCD finished it's cooldown.

    So, it looks like they have given BLM a weave window after every Fire 4 now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    To get some actual numbers, I went back.

    On the first hardcast, the cast time showed 1.48 seconds, this was under Leylines.

    Currently, at base Spell Speed, Fire 4 takes 2.8 seconds to cast, which, if we take Ley Lines into account, it would be a 2.38 second cast.

    He did hardcast Fire 4 without Ley Lines and it looked to be a 1.6second cast (though that doesn't line up with the above cast time when taking ley lines into account, but this is all rough estimate anyway).

    Most importantly though, the cast always finished before the GCD finished it's cooldown.

    So, it looks like they have given BLM a weave window after every Fire 4 now.
    The cast finishes before the GCD because there isnt a single cast in the game anymore that has a 2,5 base casttime. Everything is 1,5 and 2,0 now except BLM before the next patch. Even skills that were 3s in the past like Med2 and Asp Helios are 1,5s now.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    I see that the Trashologification has also reached BLM.
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    this game needs a general strike tbh
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    Nica Kisshu
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    Might just be me needing new classes, or Yoshi having cheat. but isn't the fire/ice phase countdown missing?


    https://imgur.com/a/qn1gDmu

    Left is from the liveletter, while right is from random youtube video.

    The normal countdown in the upper right corner is missing.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisshu View Post
    Might just be me needing new classes, or Yoshi having cheat. but isn't the fire/ice phase countdown missing?


    https://imgur.com/a/qn1gDmu

    Left is from the liveletter, while right is from random youtube video.

    The normal countdown in the upper right corner is missing.
    Yes I think there is already another thread about it.

    I know, I am not allowed to say this, but I am waiting to get rid of AF / UI timers since EW release.

    Reducing the cast time of F4 however, I don't know... BLM was the only job in the game which was slower than the GCD, I will miss that.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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