Live Letter LXXXVI 86 Discussion Thread

[Pip_Chick]

https://www.youtube.com/live/fydpys-...PFQzTyv_sOzRxI

What's your opinion on upcoming content this patch? I'm always excited to see what QoL improvements are on their way.

Felt very underwhelming. They have shown nothing of interest that will come in 7.2 proper. Occult crescent is in 7.25 and Cosmic Exploration in 7.21.

I already had nothing to do for the past 6 months, and it seems I will also have nothing to do for at least another month... Very disappointed.

[NaoSen]

I think they completely turned FF around with this.

They just went all in on Cosmic Exploration and Occult Sanctuary, the raids dont even look like much for glam or mounts, it really feels as if side content became main content.

[CNitsah]

I think they completely turned FF around with this.

They just went all in on Cosmic Exploration and Occult Sanctuary, the raids dont even look like much for glam or mounts, it really feels as if side content became main content.

What ????

Cosmic Exploration and Occult Crescent are retention content, which IS core content in MMO, content A LOT of us complained about its removal during EW. I don't know what is main content to you if this isn't. I can hear the argument that Cosmic Exploration is gathering/crafting is side content, but telling Occult Crescent is wild after the last 3 years of complaints.

[NaoSen]

????

Explain yourself. Cosmic Exploration and Occult Crescent are retention content, which IS core content in MMO, content A LOT of us complained about its removal during EW. I don't know what is main content to you if this isn't. I can hear the argument that Cosmic Exploration is gathering/crafting is side content, but telling Occult Crescent is wild after the last 3 years of complaints.

End walker till now was basically just MSQ and Raids, the meat of what makes up a MSQ has been missing. I pretty much expected occult crescent to last maybe a month or two based on how disappointing FF has been for the past few years.

Now I'm "Oh wow there's actually stuff to do in FF if you don't raid, and its a LOT"

I was basically expecting to unsubscribe after this live letter and leave FF behind because it was dead to me. Yes its a pain to wait for but I'm one of those people who Eureka was the only real content FF had outside of msq with Bozja being a poor second.

Edit: To clarify "As a non raider" I mean Savage/Ultimate since normal is so easy that it may as well be dungeon content.

[CNitsah]

End walker till now was basically just MSQ and Raids, the meat of what makes up a MSQ has been missing. I pretty much expected occult crescent to last maybe a month or two based on how disappointing FF has been for the past few years.

Now I'm "Oh wow there's actually stuff to do in FF if you don't raid, and its a LOT"

I was basically expecting to unsubscribe after this live letter and leave FF behind because it was dead to me. Yes its a pain to wait for but I'm one of those people who Eureka was the only real content FF had outside of msq with Bozja being a poor second.

And Endwalker till now has been a slow decrease of the player base (not to concerning lvl, but still a decrease). They're going back to what content closer to HW to ShB. Occult crescent is more like Eureka with some of the Bozja/Zadnor better ideas. Both Eureka and Bozja/Zadnor are still alive to this day. I doubt it will die under a few month.

Did you expect for them to spoil you about the msq. They never go deep about msq in those. MSQ and raids are still there. This is exactly what we had during EW and early DT. Do you wish they talked about that for 35 minutes? I'm the first one one to shit on SE when it comes to the content release calendar, but your take seems wild to me. I'm glad they're going back to activities that are more mmo-like.

[NaoSen]

And Endwalker till now has been a slow decrease of the player base (not to concerning lvl, but still a decrease). They're going back to what content closer to HW to ShB. Occult crescent is more like Eureka with some of the Bozja/Zadnor better ideas. Both Eureka and Bozja/Zadnor are still alive to this day. I doubt it will die under a few month.

Did you expect for them to spoil you about the msq. They never go deep about msq in those. MSQ and raids are still there. This is exactly what we had during EW and early DT. Do you wish they talked about that for 35 minutes? I'm the first one one to shit on SE when it comes to the content release calendar, but your take seems wild to me. I'm glad they're going back to activities that are more mmo-like.

Are you thinking I'm not happy ? Because I'm very happy on their direction.

I dont like the content release schedule but I like the content I'm going to get.

[OMGJesuis66]

The biggest issue, AS PER USUAL, is the freaking Schedule.

7.2 Release -> 03/25
Arcadium Release -> One Week Later
Cosmic Exploration -> 04/22
Occult Crescent -> 05/27

ONE WEEK of ONLY MSQ as content. Something people clear in a couple of hours.
And then 20 DAYS with only Arcadium as content, again, content you clear in a couple of hours per week and give weekly lockout.

And then you get Cosmic Exploration, a casual content for Gather/Crafters, something that makes you be engaged for more than a couple hours per day. Just a little bit.
After 30 DAYS after that, you get the combat content for players to grind and spend their time at.

This habit of splitting their content and giving it in small spoonfuls is upsetting because it renders the player unable to genuinely play the game because the content they give lasts a couple hours at best.
Some things need to be released together to keep engagement, stop with this awful spread of schedule, no one like those mini-patches and it cripples the whole sensation of joy and wonder a patch has, because all you make for them to enjoy is ONE OPTION, until they can finally get their whole plate of food MONTHS LATER RELEASE.

[Mikey_R]

ONE WEEK of ONLY MSQ as content. Something people clear in a couple of hours.
And then 20 DAYS with only Arcadium as content, again, content you clear in a couple of hours per week and give weekly lockout.

Technically, you do have the extreme trial, unreal trial and Arcadion Normal on release, it is only Arcadion Savage that is released a week later.

[Pyrrus]

So.. if I am reading/seeing things right.. we aren't getting any good content til May?

I was really looking forward to a Bozja-like situation because I enjoyed Bozja and it actually gave me something to do.
I am hanging on by a thread here.
MSQ takes 2 days max then raids are whatever for a once a week thing.. so where is the content?

I can craft, and guess I'll do it, but sitting down and hitting 2-3 macros to watch your character make the same things over and over really isn't sustainable content.
Why was the biggest selling point of 7.2 -- the field operation -- pushed so far out??

[NaoSen]

Why was the biggest selling point of 7.2 -- the field operation -- pushed so far out??

By the size of it I can only think that Dawntrail released too early. The sheer amount of content that's packed into Crescent is insane, I came out of that thinking that is basically Dawntrail