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  1. #1
    Player
    Gember's Avatar
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    Snow Fox
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    Zurvan
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    Fisher Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Even if it seemed to not make sense to put story character hair and outfit as obtainable in-game, what's the issue on putting rewards behind existing contents? Is there any drawbacks on making attempts to revitalize existing (old) contents?
    They could put it behind achievements. The achievement system do need more incentives other than 600+ titles and a small amount of other rewards tied to it.
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    Arrius's Avatar
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gember View Post
    They could put it behind achievements. The achievement system do need more incentives other than 600+ titles and a small amount of other rewards tied to it.
    Do they? I don't believe anything more than titles should be obtainable via achievements.
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    Gurgeh's Avatar
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    Enceladus Orbilander
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    Spriggan
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    Scholar Lv 58
    I can't believe I used to tell players "I don't resent the cash shop because it's a nice way to tip the Devs for the fantastic value we get"
    (I can hear Zeplas voice saying "...sweet summer child...")
    Oh little did I know what was waiting for me once I was caught up, and the last remaining choices were Toxic Ex farms and studying 'hard' for Savage PF, or nothing burgers.
    Its funny to think that even if I come back the cash shop is now irrelevant to me.
    I only ever bought emotes really to upgrade my character.
    However my character now hold no RP value now I'm unsubbed. It's just part of the encounter mechanism now.(2nd time in 3 months.)
    Besides, my favourite emote is probably translated into teabagging by some ERP addon. F knows what my character is up to on everyone else's screens.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 03-11-2025 at 03:34 PM.

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    Nao Sen
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    I can't believe I used to tell players "I don't resent the cash shop because it's a nice way to tip the Devs for the fantastic value we get"
    That do be how it goes, everyone I know that were "There's so much to do I don't have any problems" a year ago are either on break or subbed for their house.
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    If you want them to stop putting things in the cash shop, you need to start voting with your wallet. Don't use the cash shop ever and get as many people to do the same so it actually shows in statistics that players refuse to buy furniture items like that on cash shop.

    I am indifferent about this, but if you really want to make a stink, then the only language you can speak is Money to get your point across.
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    Arohk's Avatar
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    If you want them to stop putting things in the cash shop, you need to start voting with your wallet. Don't use the cash shop ever and get as many people to do the same so it actually shows in statistics that players refuse to buy furniture items like that on cash shop.
    It is too late, the new generation has now grown up with this kind of systems and is used to it.

    "come on, it is only FIVE DOLLAS, you dOnT hAvE to BUUUUUUY IT, DO YOU?"
    *pulls out moms credit card*
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    BokoToloko's Avatar
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    Boko Toloko
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    It never gets less baffling how we're stuck with a cash-shop in games were we already have to pay a subscription and an expansion along with it. And some items costing way more than one month's sub money that goes on top of the sub, since you need an active service account, to boot. In a more customer friendly world, this kind of thing should just stay on F2P. And let's not talk about the elephant in the room that are emotes that already existed and needed absolutely zero additional design time yet SE slapped a price tag on them nevertheless, like /deride.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    If you want them to stop putting things in the cash shop, you need to start voting with your wallet. Don't use the cash shop ever and get as many people to do the same so it actually shows in statistics that players refuse to buy furniture items like that on cash shop.

    I am indifferent about this, but if you really want to make a stink, then the only language you can speak is Money to get your point across.
    It takes few people to make most cash-shop items profitable, meaning it's very easy to undermine any attempt to "vote with our wallets", even if most of the playerbase were to agree on sabotaging the online store.

    If trying to force the companies hand and stop these kind of practices were that simple, microtransactions would've been a thing from the past already, considering they've sparked heat ever since their inception.
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    Beastrik Mijeme
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 100
    >Saw awesome new cash shop emote
    >checked the forums to see of it was hated on again
    >was not dissappointed

    EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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    >Saw new cash shop item
    >checked the forums to see if white knights jump to defend it immediately
    >was not disappointed

    EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Are you serious? shaming in a Japanese mmo? Do you realize in their culture if shammed they will (hara-kiri)(seppuku) themselves?

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