How is this allowed?

[Red-thunder]

Maybe cause the game was fresh / challenging and actually had a lot of things to do back then? Just a guess

There wasn't that much to do, but the thing is the things that you can do were all fresh and challenging. I remember when going into an alliance raid is a dice roll on whether you'll time out. So many wipes on Mhach and Dun Scaith, a few times I even saw timeouts. Jobs were also pretty complex back then.

What happened back then was that a single dungeon or alliance raid had way more staying power and was much meatier just because of the friction.

FF14 removed all the friction: in job design, in encounter design, and in progression. So now the usual content is just boring even on day 1 and doesn't have staying power.

I've seen people say the pandemic is to blame, considering everybody had to stay indoors for the most part

but there definitely has been a shift, and it seems to become increasingly more popular
maybe popular isn't the right word, but you see more and more venues crop up

Ye definitely. So many people just use FF14 for only socialization now. Not that socialization is bad, but in HW the socialization revolved around an actual game.

[YukioKobayashi]

Using MSQ/Quests covering adult themed topics as an excuse to normalize erp'ing and pr**titution in public places ingame is just wrong. There isn't a single quest ingame that normalizes pr**titution and puts it in a good spotlight.
I'm not a big Story-Andy but Thancred for example was naked in HW because he went through aether and lost his physical from while doing so. Not because he got a h*rny and wanted to "RP" with the next catgirl that runs across.
Adult themed stuff was never threated as something good or appropriate in the story. Prove me wrong.

Just look at this. This game attracts the wrong people now. Started declining in shadowbringers. And i actually do blame Mare first and foremost for it

https://youtu.be/WcjShOalSTg?si=4_Y9Z3vA03D26i_E

Something the people trying to defend the situation in Limsa and Partyfinder really should watch.

funny thing it hasn't shifted :P its been like this since Housing came out in ARR lol, just more of it now than there was simply because there are more people around, the game is on more platforms and other things, and its grown due to the fact combat has grown worse, and worse over the years, jobs became nothing but new color and animation being all that different, fighting became zombified where you basically shut brain off and autopilot through

The whole ERP advertisement stuff in Limsa and Partyfinder became a thing in late ShB, early EW. Not in ARR. ERP in general on the other hand was always there but was something you had to look for. You didnt get bombarded with it in every public place ingame.





People saying that there is no "normal" content anymore compared to past expantions have probably never stepped into most content of the game and are crying about Mare being down on patchday before unlocking the new Raid.
Ofcouse this Game has issues rn. It always had the same issues. SE is trying to cater to the entire Playerbase which is simply not possible. If the content SE releases doesnt cater to you without you having to act inappropriate in public places by turning this game into the next "adult game" I would highly suggest you to leave and look for another game. There is 100% a game out there that caters to you.

[Daughterofdeath]

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eh Like i said idc, either way, I hope the ERP people grow because if they grow and push the game to a pure 18+ that means I can say w/e i want and talk how i desire with nothing against me so I can go into the pure dark romance/gore core all I want plus I want to see it happen even though I don't erp just to Push against the family-friendly bs society has been shoving everywhere

[CCheshire]

I've seen people say the pandemic is to blame, considering everybody had to stay indoors for the most part

but there definitely has been a shift, and it seems to become increasingly more popular
maybe popular isn't the right word, but you see more and more venues crop up

There's always been RP events on PF since I returned in HW but it's been just pages of night clubs and venues since 2020 and hasn't stopped even now.

Also, I used to check PF to help sprouts clear the less popular raid series like Coil or Alexander, V&C, and DD if I was that bored.

[Red-thunder]

People saying that there is no "normal" content anymore compared to past expantions have probably never stepped into most content of the game and are crying about Mare being down on patchday before unlocking the new Raid.
Ofcouse this Game has issues rn. It always had the same issues. SE is trying to cater to the entire Playerbase which is simply not possible. If the content SE releases doesnt cater to you without you having to act inappropriate in public places by turning this game into the next "adult game" I would highly suggest you to leave and look for another game. There is 100% a game out there that caters to you.

Lol you complain about why there's so much ERP and then you deny the reason standing right in front of your eyes.

There is no content. This game is dogwater. Why are you surprised that the people who actually enjoy playing video games all quit a long time ago, leaving behind ERPers, bots, and Chloe Saunders

[YukioKobayashi]

Lol you complain about why there's so much ERP and then you deny the reason standing right in front of your eyes.

There is no content. This game is dogwater. Why are you surprised that the people who actually enjoy playing video games all quit a long time ago, leaving behind ERPers, bots, and Chloe Saunders

Only because the current content doesnt cater towards you doesnt mean that there is no content.
Midcore and Hardcore Players are really eating good so far in DT.
A decent first Raidtier, Chaotic Raid, 3 really good first Ex-Primals with mechanics that dont put you to sleep on the 2nd clear and a good Ultimate that is not too hard for Midcore Players like TOP on release but also leaves enough room for sweaty gamers to optimize.
The Playergroup that came short so far were the Casuals which will change with 7.2 and the new Bozja and all that stuff.
But again. If the Game doesnt cater towards you it means that you should leave and look for another game.

[Kaurhz]

I've been on both fences of this argument.. But really, generally, it is OK provided the 18+ content is done behind closed doors, e.g., I think it's best to advertise a venue as mature to steer people away, than it is to let someone play the whole "Why don't you mess around and find out game". It's arguably just as safe on both the 'child' and the people at the venue.

and frankly policing what people do behind closed doors is a pretty bad precedent to set.. First and foremost because you will very quickly escalate how people feel about all things against ToS. Should they start banning people for simply showcasing a mod regardless of whether said mod is harmless or not when done for personal consumption, e.g., parsing or character mods... Shall we ban those people too? -- Shall we then start banning people for simple talking about them? Because there absolutely is a clause in the ToS that stipulates "- Creating, distributing, using, or promoting utilities that interact with the game."

Should we also start banning people for profanities, because many people absolutely do find it deplorable to express certain profanities in the presence of a child.

This may come across as pedantic, but this absolutely will happen.

[Daughterofdeath]

Only because the current content doesnt cater towards you doesnt mean that there is no content.
Midcore and Hardcore Players are really eating good so far in DT.
A decent first Raidtier, Chaotic Raid, 3 really good first Ex-Primals with mechanics that dont put you to sleep on the 2nd clear and a good Ultimate that is not too hard for Midcore Players like TOP on release but also leaves enough room for sweaty gamers to optimize.
The Playergroup that came short so far were the Casuals which will change with 7.2 and the new Bozja and all that stuff.
But again. If the Game doesnt cater towards you it means that you should leave and look for another game.

so theres the truth of it, you dont really have an issue with it you just angry that its being treated as not a negative thing from the player base, that players are prostituting and doing other things in those areas YOU don't approve of probably because something like religion so your waving your cane in the air at them not for doing it but for not being ashamed of it and receiving hate from the public because they are having fun in their own way.

Your okay with it exist when these old writers are writing it in a negative light thats fine https://i.imgur.com/mQBdNyk.jpeg

Lol you complain about why there's so much ERP and then you deny the reason standing right in front of your eyes.

There is no content. This game is dogwater. Why are you surprised that the people who actually enjoy playing video games all quit a long time ago, leaving behind ERPers, bots, and Chloe Saunders

Please I enjoy games, I just don't enjoy what Yoshi has turned ff into and I can use older final fantasy to prove my point on that and how he has turned ff into this pansy storyline bs i mean ff10 death spiral story, ff7 legit have a main character dying and suffering mental illness and body break down from the start, ff9 u kidnap and do other negative things. ff8 your legit just a bunch of orphans being paid to kill people at school that trains you for it lol.

I mean ff12 and ff13 as well have all been darker storylines the only Light and cheerfull ffs were ff1 and ff14 lol

[Kishin12345]

so theres the truth of it, you dont really have an issue with it you just angry that its being treated as not a negative thing from the player base, that players are prostituting and doing other things in those areas YOU don't approve of probably because something like religion so your waving your cane in the air at them not for doing it but for not being ashamed of it and receiving hate from the public because they are having fun in their own way.

Your okay with it exist when these old writers are writing it in a negative light thats fine https://i.imgur.com/mQBdNyk.jpeg






Please I enjoy games, I just don't enjoy what Yoshi has turned ff into and I can use older final fantasy to prove my point on that and how he has turned ff into this pansy storyline bs i mean ff10 death spiral story, ff7 legit have a main character dying and suffering mental illness and body break down from the start, ff9 u kidnap and do other negative things. ff8 your legit just a bunch of orphans being paid to kill people at school that trains you for it lol.

I mean ff12 and ff13 as well have all been darker storylines the only Light and cheerfull ffs were ff1 and ff14 lol

People not having an issue?
Where did you hear that?
Most players feel uncomfy with that type of stuff and dont want to have anything to do with such people.
There are players quitting because of public erp and all that nonsense

[CNitsah]

Just look at this. This game attracts the wrong people now. Started declining in shadowbringers. And i actually do blame Mare first and foremost for it

https://youtu.be/WcjShOalSTg?si=4_Y9Z3vA03D26i_E

This is sad. His video summarized the problem very well.