How is this allowed?

[Daughterofdeath]

Ok, let me make something clear here.
I have nothing against RP, ERP, Venues, 18+ Stuff, Mods, Mare and all that stuff. The FFXIV Venues Website is great for those who seek for it. Doesnt matter if its Normal RP or some +18 stuff.
I have something against the way its advertised in the Partyfinder to our underaged community.
As an IRL example. A 14 y/o can find "Adult Movies" on the Internet if they seek for it but also doesnt get exposed to it on his YouTube Frontpage on a on a daily basis.
I bet Gil on it that both Venue examples I gave at the top have a Syncshell with People running around without Pants inside the Venue + a carrd advertising all sorts of "Adult RP" for a couple hundred thousand gil.
All that accessible to everyone via the Partyfinder without age control.

there are no other ways, you do it on shout people get pissy and try to start something and tell you to just do it in pf, and honestly thats the fault of SE ive suggested multiple times they make 18+ worlds only for it to get ignored they asked for date of birth on account making so they could easily do it, i mean you can get in trouble for pfs I have beefore.


but the age controll is on the parents themself noone else

[Wasselin]

Ok, let me make something clear here.
I have nothing against RP, ERP, Venues, 18+ Stuff, Mods, Mare and all that stuff. The FFXIV Venues Website is great for those who seek for it. Doesnt matter if its Normal RP or some +18 stuff.
I have something against the way its advertised in the Partyfinder to our underaged community.
As an IRL example. A 14 y/o can find "Adult Movies" on the Internet if they seek for it but also doesnt get exposed to it on his YouTube Frontpage on a on a daily basis.
I bet Gil on it that both Venue examples I gave at the top have a Syncshell with People running around without Pants inside the Venue + a carrd advertising all sorts of "Adult RP" for a couple hundred thousand gil.
All that accessible to everyone via the Partyfinder without age control.

Exposed to what? The words "spicy bathhouse"? The fact that NSFW content exists somewhere out there?

[hydralus]

As an IRL example. A 14 y/o can find "Adult Movies" on the Internet if they seek for it but also doesnt get exposed to it on his YouTube Frontpage on a on a daily basis.

Instead they'll be put down red pill rabbit holes or, even worse, Spiderman and Elsa pregnancy videos.

Also kids can't read these days so there's no need to worry.

[Hallarem]

Example 2
In the case of role-playing involving mildly sexual expressions (such as erotic role-playing) with a consenting group of two or more players, if it is conducted in a private area, it will not be considered a violation unless a report is made.

However, if you encourage or invite a player to participate in such role-play without being certain of their consent, there is a high possibility that you will be reported and penalized. Please be very careful.

As you can see, expressions that fall under this category are generally prohibited, so if even one player who witnessed such an expression finds it offensive, there is a high possibility that it will be reported. What is considered offensive will vary from person to person, so if you believe there is any chance that you may offend someone, you should refrain from making such expressions.

Please note that Square Enix may issue a penalty at its discretion even if a report has not been filed but the act was found being conducted in public areas such as Say and Shout, search comments, Party Finder, on online video/streaming services, if the behavior is found to violate real world laws, or if it may be considered a problem based on the game's entertainment board ratings.




Quoted straight from the ToS

[Boblawblah]

[YukioKobayashi]

This constant moral panic over ERP is so strange to me. If it offends you don't go looking for it. I literally never run across this stuff unless it's people on the forums or on YouTube complaining about it.

Its really hard to not see it if you do more than just your daily roulette. Opening the Partyfinder to find a Ultimate Party or going to the Limsa Marketboard to buy something is already enough to get bombarded with that stuff.

there are no other ways, you do it on shout people get pissy and try to start something and tell you to just do it in pf, and honestly thats the fault of SE ive suggested multiple times they make 18+ worlds only for it to get ignored they asked for date of birth on account making so they could easily do it, i mean you can get in trouble for pfs I have beefore.


but the age controll is on the parents themself noone else

There are other ways to advertise that kind of RP outside of the game and official forums. Discord Servers, Websites, ect. It takes less than 30 seconds to find the FFXIVVenues Website on Google by searching for "FFXIV RP". Expecting parents to always keep an eye on what the child is doing in an story and combat focused mmorpg is really unrealistic.

Exposed to what? The words "spicy bathhouse"? The fact that NSFW content exists somewhere out there?

Ok now seriously. The average age of the xiv playerbase from what I have seen is far over 25. Now imagine an lets say 16 y/o somewhat new player visiting one of the "spicy bathhouse"s out of curiosity after seeing it listed on the Partyfinder. Gets introduced to that kind of RP among players far over his age. ( before someone stops me here now. Yes i know. Not everyone does that kind of RP this way but some are.) It turns my stomach thinking about that the older person might rub a salami while "RPing" with said 16 y/o. Thats some criminal "pdf file" stuff that doesnt belong in an MMO. Especially not that accessible via the In-Game Partyfinder. That kind of RP is still between 2 People and not AI. The age matters.

[Mawlzy]

Its really hard to not see it if you do more than just your daily roulette. Opening the Partyfinder to find a Ultimate Party or going to the Limsa Marketboard to buy something is already enough to get bombarded with that stuff.

I guess I must be really unobservant because I've never felt bombarded by "that stuff," nor hardly ever noticed it.

Meanwhile, the MSQ includes, to various degrees of specificity, most of the vices and crimes that are features of the real world, including torture, kidnap, murder and r@pe.

Of course the protection of minors is important, but I imagine a 16 year-old visiting a mature venue knows exactly what they're getting into, and also knows how to click "I am over 18" on adult sites all over the web.

[YukioKobayashi]

I guess I must be really unobservant because I've never felt bombarded by "that stuff," nor hardly ever noticed it.

Meanwhile, the MSQ includes, to various degrees of specificity, most of the vices and crimes that are features of the real world, including torture, kidnap, murder and r@pe.

Of course the protection of minors is important, but I imagine a 16 year-old visiting a mature venue knows exactly what they're getting into, and also knows how to click "I am over 18" on adult sites all over the web.

It seems to be more of an Light Datacenter problem.
20+ Nightclub shouts per hour in Limsa with several containing "NSFW", "18+" ect.
+18 "extra" fun Nightclub ad at any time even on a sunday morning at 7:30am CET
Its really not unrealistic to find at least 5 of those advertisements in the early evening. Keep in mind that the Light Datacenter Partyfinder is an ant compared to Aether. 5 are a lot.

[brinn12]

It's interesting to see that there are people who log into FFXIV, see "VERY NSFW" in a PF description, and think: "This doesn't break ToS". I wish I could be this naive.
(not talking about OP of course)

[Daughterofdeath]

It's interesting to see that there are people who log into FFXIV, see "VERY NSFW" in a PF description, and think: "This doesn't break ToS". I wish I could be this naive.
(not talking about OP of course)

or we disagree with it completely just because something is written into a tos, rule or law doesn't mean it should be obeyed sometimes people make rules they HAVE NO RIGHT to make to start with, and this is one of those examples when the MSQ story and content itself has it written into the lore/and story its hypocritical to have a rule against it in the TOS