Quick Question about the new field operations?

[Valence]

Imagine if we didn't have to gouge our eyes out in tedious fate farming before being allowed to access the actually interesting content (CLL, Dalriada, etc).

[RicaRuin]

Imagine if we didn't have to gouge our eyes out in tedious fate farming before being allowed to access the actually interesting content (CLL, Dalriada, etc).

Good news for you, then - they already announced las LL that the new Field-Operation Raid like Dalriada/CLL will be accessible right from the get-go.

[CNitsah]

Good news for you, then - they already announced las LL that the new Field-Operation Raid like Dalriada/CLL will be accessible right from the get-go.

I think that meant "not having to wait for a future patch", not "you can enter it from the beginning". It's probably gonna be exactly like Bozja/Zadnor. Question is : will the be like CLL/Dalriada, or like DR.

[Valence]

Good news for you, then - they already announced las LL that the new Field-Operation Raid like Dalriada/CLL will be accessible right from the get-go.

Well i'd be curious to see how it would work either way, because where is the progression then? Unless those operations are supposed to be the progression, or an alternative path to fate grinding for progress?

I think that meant "not having to wait for a future patch", not "you can enter it from the beginning". It's probably gonna be exactly like Bozja/Zadnor.

Most likely..

Question is : will the be like CLL/Dalriada, or like DR.

I hope it's not like DR, the literal embodiment of bodychecks or DDR checks over actual battle systems and a series of trial bosses in a circle arena...
Crossing fingers for CLL/Dalriada.

[Jeeqbit]

Quick Question about the new field operations?
I just realised... they were always associated with relics and, that still meant 2 hit grinding fates in parties of 30, and queuing ARR alliances.

That has depended heavily on the expansion:

• ARR and Heavensward involved FATEs. I don't think I recall alliance raids?
• Stormblood did not involve FATEs or alliance raids, since it was all in Eureka (but technically, NMs use the same code as FATEs).
• Shadowbringers had a one-off FATE grind, I recall. The unlock quest for it required the Ivalice alliance raids to have been done. The rest could be done entirely within Bozja and Zadnor. But that involved Skirmishes, which are basically FATEs. You could do Alliance Raids as an alternative though, which most people preferred because, for reasons I do not understand, those players enjoyed Crystal Tower.
• Endwalker did not require any FATEs.

I already did a couple non-scaling 2 hit hunt farms and that was enough.

Hunts are not the same as FATEs. There is a level sync on FATEs. There is not, however, an item level sync, which means that the FATEs in the final areas will sync to the max item level of that expansion, causing them to melt. Blue Mages can sometimes melt them as well, although this is regarded a griefing by most reasonable players when a lot of people are farming them.

If people are griefing you can just travel to another world or data center anyway, or wait until the hype dies down after a few days or weeks.

To answer your question, they intend to give you the option to progress the relic either within the relic area or by doing old content, from my understanding. They will most likely try something similar to the Shadowbringers model, hopefully with lessons learned (my hope is it will be more efficient to do it within the relic area).

[Gurgeh]

I just saw Cider Spiders vid. Oh my word what the frick did I too to upset him so much? Sure I've been an over generalizing dick about high end players, but he didn't seem to mention that. He seems to be pissed that after I started talking about unsubbing back at Xmas (not a year ago), and did, that I than came back again for just one month (I've been unsubbed two weeks again now so I'm expecting this forum access to lock out any minute/day now).
I'm not the only person unhappy with the game who's still wanted to give it a chance. (question that the problem is me an not the game)
Still not really complaining I know I've been a bit unfiltered emotional at times here, and this is a read public forum.
"Dear diary" yeah that's fair.
I would say I could have worded my question in this post here a bit better. Which is that I just don't want to have to do Fates in La Noscea, or farm ARR alliances, not that its tied to relics thats not a problem. (relics are just irrelevant to me now)
But I got my answer which is... "probably not 'mandatory'. There will be alternatives".
I hope so.
(If Cider allows me to come back that is :"3 uwu)
I hope my other posts weren't skipped just because he didn't have time for my shit rather than it didn't fit the picture he painted of me.
...
What the frick is a goober? (no circular references please)
Nah I'm not trolling. Not this time, I only troll the trolls, and they know it so that's ok, or it aught to be.

[CVXIV]

I just saw Cider Spiders vid. Oh my word what the frick did I too to upset him so much? Sure I've been an over generalizing dick about high end players, but he didn't seem to mention that. He seems to be pissed that after I started talking about unsubbing back at Xmas (not a year ago), and did, that I than came back again for just one month (I've been unsubbed two weeks again now so I'm expecting this forum access to lock out any minute/day now).
I'm not the only person unhappy with the game who's still wanted to give it a chance. (question that the problem is me an not the game)
Still not really complaining I know I've been a bit unfiltered emotional at times here, and this is a read public forum.
"Dear diary" yeah that's fair.
I would say I could have worded my question in this post here a bit better. Which is that I just don't want to have to do Fates in La Noscea, or farm ARR alliances, not that its tied to relics thats not a problem. (relics are just irrelevant to me now)
But I got my answer which is... "probably not 'mandatory'. There will be alternatives".
I hope so.
(If Cider allows me to come back that is :"3 uwu)
I hope my other posts weren't skipped just because he didn't have time for my shit rather than it didn't fit the picture he painted of me.
...
What the frick is a goober? (no circular references please)
Nah I'm not trolling. Not this time, I only troll the trolls, and they know it so that's ok, or it aught to be.

[Kaurhz]

I just saw Cider Spiders vid. Oh my word what the frick did I too to upset him so much? Sure I've been an over generalizing dick about high end players, but he didn't seem to mention that. He seems to be pissed that after I started talking about unsubbing back at Xmas (not a year ago), and did, that I than came back again for just one month (I've been unsubbed two weeks again now so I'm expecting this forum access to lock out any minute/day now).
I'm not the only person unhappy with the game who's still wanted to give it a chance. (question that the problem is me an not the game)
Still not really complaining I know I've been a bit unfiltered emotional at times here, and this is a read public forum.
"Dear diary" yeah that's fair.
I would say I could have worded my question in this post here a bit better. Which is that I just don't want to have to do Fates in La Noscea, or farm ARR alliances, not that its tied to relics thats not a problem. (relics are just irrelevant to me now)
But I got my answer which is... "probably not 'mandatory'. There will be alternatives".
I hope so.
(If Cider allows me to come back that is :"3 uwu)
I hope my other posts weren't skipped just because he didn't have time for my shit rather than it didn't fit the picture he painted of me.
...
What the frick is a goober? (no circular references please)
Nah I'm not trolling. Not this time, I only troll the trolls, and they know it so that's ok, or it aught to be.

It ain't that deep LOL.

He read a few of your thread(s), found some of the posts a bit silly, commented and moved on to the next thread, and then commented on the next thread.

[Red-thunder]

I just saw Cider Spiders vid. Oh my word what the frick did I too to upset him so much? Sure I've been an over generalizing dick about high end players, but he didn't seem to mention that. He seems to be pissed that after I started talking about unsubbing back at Xmas (not a year ago), and did, that I than came back again for just one month (I've been unsubbed two weeks again now so I'm expecting this forum access to lock out any minute/day now).
I'm not the only person unhappy with the game who's still wanted to give it a chance. (question that the problem is me an not the game)
Still not really complaining I know I've been a bit unfiltered emotional at times here, and this is a read public forum.
"Dear diary" yeah that's fair.
I would say I could have worded my question in this post here a bit better. Which is that I just don't want to have to do Fates in La Noscea, or farm ARR alliances, not that its tied to relics thats not a problem. (relics are just irrelevant to me now)
But I got my answer which is... "probably not 'mandatory'. There will be alternatives".
I hope so.
(If Cider allows me to come back that is :"3 uwu)
I hope my other posts weren't skipped just because he didn't have time for my shit rather than it didn't fit the picture he painted of me.
...
What the frick is a goober? (no circular references please)
Nah I'm not trolling. Not this time, I only troll the trolls, and they know it so that's ok, or it aught to be.

I hope CiderSpider sees this and makes another reaction vid.

I don't think he hates you lmao. He just thinks you're a bit silly.

[Jeeqbit]

Isn't deep at all. Content creators don't read the forums properly or understand them like those of us posting here regularly. They are just finding some content to make a video about because they are, well, content creators.

When you post here you're publishing and that makes the content of your post open to reactions like how they react to news articles. No point taking it personally since they don't really understand you, they're just fishing for things to make content about as I said.

Content creators are never actually upset, by the way. They are channeling glints of emotion and overhyping them, because doing this is more entertaining. Being entertaining is their job. I'm sure they'd be super chill if you met them off camera.