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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoryBadge View Post
    i think i phrased it poorly but what i meant is gearing level range within the expansion 91-100.
    Oh, well I do think it matters actually. You can get away without it, sure, but you are potentially causing your party to wipe. I've seen this many times in leveling dungeons, where the healer's output is so poor they can't handle the healing, or the tank can't handle the enemies even with mit because they hit hard. When I was leveling Sage this expansion, I threw everything at the tank and barely kept them alive and their gear did have some leveling gear, so using tomestone gear wouldn't have been a good look for that tank.

    I even remember a time in Heavensward where everyone tried to get carried in The Vault with tomestone gear and ultimately the party fought over why they were wiping, playing the blame game over lack of DPS and HP.

    You can get through it with tomestone gear but you're holding your party back a lot or getting carried. Duty Support is able to do this though. The healers will actually carry the player hard.
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    Krann Starwarden
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    I said it once and I'll say it again. The devs shouldn't be afraid of integrating 'Exploration zones' into the overworld.

    Let them become one and available from the expansion launch! Why gate one of the most MMO parts of this game, which is an MMO, behind several months of patches and as a side content?
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    I said it once and I'll say it again. The devs shouldn't be afraid of integrating 'Exploration zones' into the overworld.

    Let them become one and available from the expansion launch! Why gate one of the most MMO parts of this game, which is an MMO, behind several months of patches and as a side content?
    Yeah that so much. Back when Eureka launched and we basically 24/7'd it, we could not help new fc members unless it was before we started or after we left. if it was an open zone where we could use duty finder etc, things wouldve been different...
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    Lakryma Tyental
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    Twintania
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    I am currently taking a break and roaming around Guild Wars 2. If you compare them, FFXIVs overworld is beautiful, but dead. Small and nothing to do. The idea of FATEs is great. But after ARR Devs prioritized other content. Now people port in and out for a hunt and thats it
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    Hallarem Aurealis
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    Big empty areas with nothing in them is the crux of the argument.

    - They need settlements and camps.
    -OPEN ALL BUILDINGS and make them alive and LIVED.
    -Have activities aside from Fates and Hunts
    - Make mobs farmable for some rare materials, have rare mobs that can appear in a COMPLETELY random location, so bots cant camp it or have everyone be able to tag the same mobs with personal drop chances
    - Chocobo treasure hunts
    - Minigames
    - Rare world bosses like fates, but ones that drop rare glam materials, mounts, furniture materials. Personal tag so you cant troll or camp.
    - Somekind of open world activity that you can do for 10 minutes or keep grinding for profit / fun random drops. You know, like an MMO usually does.

    Until then, the open ghost town'esque maps are just pretty to look at while you msq and grind fates.
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    Also edit: (cant edit on phone)

    Please let us disable fate visibility on map and the awful sound that interrupts the flow of you exploring the map.
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    Medim Azurarok
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    I'm guessing flying makes them think every corner of the map should be traversable, but it really doesn't matter if there's nothing there. I think the maps have gotten bigger too, but it only really means things are spaced out further. Every new map I'm finding myself just running straight to each aether current or MSQ point without really caring as much for the actual landscape. It worked in HW partly because it was different from ARR, but it hasn't changed since and the formula's gone stale.

    Quote Originally Posted by CVXIV View Post
    I also personally dislike the fates where you can't see the icon on the map
    Typically people will call it out or you'll see it in PF, but they seem to happen infrequently and you're unlikely to know unless you happen to be in the zone or just happen to spot the parties for it in PF
    They've updated those fates to show up on the map now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurarok View Post
    They've updated those fates to show up on the map now.
    That only applies to the ones with a single spawn point. Many older ones have multiple spawn points: Steel Reign, Prey Online, A Horse Outside and Foxy Lady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    That only applies to the ones with a single spawn point. Many older ones have multiple spawn points: Steel Reign, Prey Online, A Horse Outside and Foxy Lady.
    oh oof, so you still have to camp out for Foxy Lady for the tell and stuff. At least it's easy to tell when Steel Reign's spawned.
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    Doki Waku
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    One of the first impressions I had going into Dawntrail is how large and empty Tuliyollal feels.
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