FRU has been cleared without Tanks!

[Kohashi]

You are excluded if you don’t play the most powerful class

Oh you mean like PCT, or SCH or AST

Or you get excluded if you play bad classes

Oh you mean like SMN, and MCH, and PLD and MNK many times, or WHM and SGE

Every class in 14 is the same and they still can’t balance them

Do you mean this? : https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/59?boss=1074
Or maybe this? : https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/59?boss=1077
I am sure it's this one: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62?boss=93 right?
no wait!!! It's this one: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62?boss=95 or maybe: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...93&class=Tanks

The balance is not perfect, yes, the game can definitely be improved, but I never saw anyone being excluded/ kicked playing any of those bad classes that you are mentioning.

Also the examples you give were probably true at some point, but they aren't currently.

[Supersnow845]

Do you mean this? : https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/59?boss=1074
Or maybe this? : https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/59?boss=1077
I am sure it's this one: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62?boss=93 right?
no wait!!! It's this one: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62?boss=95 or maybe: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...93&class=Tanks

The balance is not perfect, yes, the game can definitely be improved, but I never saw anyone being excluded/ kicked playing any of those bad classes that you are mentioning.

Also the examples you give were probably true at some point, but they aren't currently.

I love how you linked UWU of all fights but not the obvious fight that anyone can figure out when I’m saying SMN is getting excluded

Like who cares about the balance of UWU

[Kohashi]

I love how you linked UWU of all fights but not the obvious fight that anyone can figure out when I’m saying SMN is getting excluded

Like who cares about the balance of UWU

And in which fight is SMN being excluded? I am currently progging FRU, and I have never seen any SMN being kicked or told to leave, but do please enlighten me: which fight are you progging and you saw this behaviour taking place?

Also, you either care about overall balance or not talk shit 24/7 saying you care about the game and its balance state. Do you just pick whatever suits you and your biased narrative that has very little to do with reality and the actual state of the game?

[Supersnow845]

And in which fight is SMN being excluded? I am currently progging FRU, and I have never seen any SMN being kicked or told to leave, but do please enlighten me: which fight are you progging and you saw this behaviour taking place?

Also, you either care about overall balance or not talk shit 24/7 saying you care about the game and its balance state. Do you just pick whatever suits you and your biased narrative that has very little to do with reality and the actual state of the game?

PCT to SMN has a 32 to 1 clear rate, that’s more ergregious than the worst of the worst of WOW’s “I’ll dox ya grandma if you join as this job” and far worse than balance defenders pet defence of HW PLD

And like I’ve said before I don’t care about balance, I care that the jobs are grey slop in pursuit of balance and they still can’t balance them which is actually why I don’t really mind the above discrepancy between PCT and SMN, because PCT is trying to do something different. But I know I’d be pissed if I was one of SMN’s 3 mains

[Kohashi]

PCT to SMN has a 32 to 1 clear rate, that’s more ergregious than the worst of the worst of WOW’s “I’ll dox ya grandma if you join as this job” and far worse than balance defenders pet defence of HW PLD

And like I’ve said before I don’t care about balance, I care that the jobs are grey slop in pursuit of balance and they still can’t balance them which is actually why I don’t really mind the above discrepancy between PCT and SMN, because PCT is trying to do something different. But I know I’d be pissed if I was one of SMN’s 3 mains

I have no clue where you got that data from, but fine, I will humor you. The ratio isn't low because people were forced to switch from SMN.
I personally find both PCT and SMN pretty boring, but that's just me.

Why would you exclude UWU from balancing? Do you actually care about balance?

I am still waiting for that example of the fight that you are progging ATM and in which SMN is being kicked/excluded. You got me curious so?

[Supersnow845]

I have no clue where you got that data from, but fine, I will humor you. The ratio isn't low because people were forced to switch from SMN.
I personally find both PCT and SMN pretty boring, but that's just me.

Why would you exclude UWU from balancing? Do you actually care about balance?

I am still waiting for that example of the fight that you are progging ATM and in which SMN is being kicked/excluded. You got me curious so?

“I’m waiting for that example of people being kicked/excluded”


Edit correction on my part it’s a 23 to 1 pure ratio (ie how many clears PCT has vs how many SMN has) it’s a 32 to 1 ratio on clears of PCT that DONT have SMN vs clears of SMN that DONT have PCT

Literally FRU. You don’t get a 32 to 1 ratio just because people vaguely prefer PCT (your opinions on either are irrelevant to this discussion). PF’s all over are locking caster spots to PCT and if they allow double caster they discourage all but RDM. This was a big controversy when unsurprisingly PCT was incredibly powerful in FRU

[Kohashi]

“I’m waiting for that example of people being kicked/excluded”


Edit correction on my part it’s a 23 to 1 pure ratio (ie how many clears PCT has vs how many SMN has) it’s a 32 to 1 ratio on clears of PCT that DONT have SMN vs clears of SMN that DONT have PCT

Literally FRU. You don’t get a 32 to 1 ratio just because people vaguely prefer PCT (your opinions on either are irrelevant to this discussion). PF’s all over are locking caster spots to PCT and if they allow double caster they discourage all but RDM. This was a big controversy when unsurprisingly PCT was incredibly powerful in FRU

That is just a number. I have been progging in PF a lot these days, and I have NEVER seen a party locking in a spot for PCT, maybe because it's also against the ToS too..LOL.

PCT is highly effective in ultimates because of its frequent downtimes and the way it can mitigate those moments by simply painting. PCT would be overpowered if it excelled in every single battle, but it doesn’t.

I love numbers, so let's see more of it :
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/58?boss=1071
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/58?boss=1078

PCT is OP, right........