FRU has been cleared without Tanks!

[Inputnamehere]

This is the worst way to approach a design issue with tanks and healers. Your not actually fixing the issue that tanks and healers should feel impactful, your just making them be there for the sake of being there.

Not me. The development team.

Looking at where the game's heading, I won't be surprised if they resolve to take such measures.

[brinn12]

The difficulty of this fight was the result of many people normalizing the use of third party tools to solve mechanics in TOP, thinking they were entitled to clear every fight.

[TakoyakiLala]

*Cries in Warrior Unga Boongas*

[Supersnow845]

Exactly this all boils down to a design issue generated from the loss of agro as a mechanic

With no agro tanks functionally don’t have any job mechanics. Tankbusters are the only mechanic that exists that forces them to engage with their mitigation toolkit

Because of this loss of tank agro tanks have basically been given as compensation healer mechanics which pushes healers to the side because tanks are bulkier and do more damage than healers

The design of the game needs to engage with tank design so tank design doesn’t encroach on healer design which will fix both roles

[Absurdity]

It's not entirely just aggro management, it's also the loss of any kind of control over the boss.
Good boss positioning was a skill to master for every fight, since it could make both dealing damage and dodging mechanics easier for the rest of your party.
Technically boss positioning still exists, but it's vestigal at best. It mattered in exactly two fights in the current raid tier, for a single mechanic per fight...and one of those is debatable.

[ServerCollaps]

people act like having a 3rd shield heal that does nothing but spamming massive shields on a dps that would otherwise be 1 shot by every hit, makes tanks useless

(because of a clear that required 8 people which played on austistic level with tons of luck/good patterns, while they could never ever pull it off themselfes in their lifes)

the fight is good as it is :shrug:

[Supersnow845]

people act like having a 3rd shield heal that does nothing but spamming massive shields on a dps that would otherwise be 1 shot by every hit, makes tanks useless

the fight is good as it is :shrug:

Spreadlo is only about 1200 potency even when you boost it which is like 100-150k HP. A non spreadlo adlo is like 500 potency the tankbusters that actually hurt do about 700k and autos should hit straight through adlo. The third SCH isn’t the problem here

[ServerCollaps]

Spreadlo is only about 1200 potency even when you boost it which is like 100-150k HP. A non spreadlo adlo is like 500 potency the tankbusters that actually hurt do about 700k and autos should hit straight through adlo. The third SCH isn’t the problem here

you can complain about it, once "no tank clears" become meta and every 2nd group is able to pull it off

[Supersnow845]

you can complain about it, once "no tank clears" become meta and every 2nd group is able to pull it off

Didn’t even wait a single post before jumping to the most braindead deflection that would make r/ffxiv proud