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    ln game classes :need their SIGNATURES/return of some abilitys

    First, every class should have their classical final fantasy signature "trait"

    Examples:
    bard: foe requirm(did exist but got removed needs to come back)
    Monk: needs a passive trait to auto counter,
    Whitemage: bring back protect (even if its a cd buff that only last 1 min on a single target meaning you have to cast it 4-8 times) and stoneskin
    (and even if it doesnt take our gil) give samurai}: gil toss

    Also some abilities like every healer having Unique esuna's need to return I'm sorry but leeches on scholar brought the job alive when cleansing.


    and Heres a "hot take" it doesn't matter how the ... your fights are designed it doesn't matter what the fights do and how they interact if the jobs themself do not feel alive combat is bad no matter how WELL THE FIGHTS ARE DESIGNED
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    Last edited by Daughterofdeath; 03-06-2025 at 08:12 AM.

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    Wasselin Kainz
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    Protect and Stoneskin are not "signature" White Mage abilities. We have our signature ability and it's Holy.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasselin View Post
    Protect and Stoneskin are not "signature" White Mage abilities. We have our signature ability and it's Holy.
    Holy is barely even in the form that makes it WHM’s “signature” ability.

    Holy is an ultimate. Not the thing you spam when you have 3 mobs or more that has a weird flower design
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Holy is barely even in the form that makes it WHM’s “signature” ability.

    Holy is an ultimate. Not the thing you spam when you have 3 mobs or more that has a weird flower design
    I agree in most games Holy is a higher level attack but this is an MMO, and I prefer it this way so we actually get to use it.

    Holy has lots of different effects across the series, and I think the flower design really fits with FFXIV's version of White Mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasselin View Post
    Protect and Stoneskin are not "signature" White Mage abilities. We have our signature ability and it's Holy.
    I didnt say those 2 were they fall under catagory of need to return abilitys that we had ;p not so much a signature (although id agrue protect kind of is)
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    Bring back Dark Dance, bring back Darkside, bring back MCH ammo, bring back Bane (bio/miasma and their friends), bring back Kaiten, bring back Dragon Sight, bring back...
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    SCH deserves somewhat of a makeover since neither Summon Seraph or Seraphism really thematically fit the class... Let the Job have its fairies, no need to try to turn it into an angel themed healer for literally no reason.

    As for WHM, I think what that job needs is more relation to their Conjurer roots, they're just the Light Mage now instead of using any of the elements. I think Aquaveil is the only thing that's not light themed at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    SCH deserves somewhat of a makeover since neither Summon Seraph or Seraphism really thematically fit the class... Let the Job have its fairies, no need to try to turn it into an angel themed healer for literally no reason.

    As for WHM, I think what that job needs is more relation to their Conjurer roots, they're just the Light Mage now instead of using any of the elements. I think Aquaveil is the only thing that's not light themed at this point.
    tbh that what white mage is suppose to be 14 kinda screwed with alot of things due to class to job shift in most FFS the elements all of them belong to blm or summoner (im just counting summoner cuz all summon even though they ddont rlly count as elements)

    The point of white mage is its holy and healing attributes with the ability to buff and remove things from enemys
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