FFXIV poor performance outlier on new Radeon 9070 XT cards!?

[jotoho]

Don't know what FPS this would translate to, but I found someone online who claims to have run the Dawntrail Benchmark (4k Maximum settings) on the 9070 XT and Linux and got a score of 17076 "Extremely High".

If anyone here is impacted by the poor 9070XT FFXIV performance while on Windows, and could share the numbers they get in DT Benchmark 4k Maximum, and there indeed is a big gap, that might support s32ialx's suspicion that the issue lies in FFXIV's DX11, since Linux must always translate to Vulkan.

[s32ialx]

Don't know what FPS this would translate to, but I found someone online who claims to have run the Dawntrail Benchmark (4k Maximum settings) on the 9070 XT and Linux and got a score of 17076 "Extremely High".

If anyone here is impacted by the poor 9070XT FFXIV performance while on Windows, and could share the numbers they get in DT Benchmark 4k Maximum, and there indeed is a big gap, that might support s32ialx's suspicion that the issue lies in FFXIV's DX11, since Linux must always translate to Vulkan.

I edited my post with some extra info but when I get home I will run the benchmark after replacing the DX 11 with Vulkan like I did for the live service. just a small example of the FPS I get with vulkan area dependant:

[s32ialx]

Don't know what FPS this would translate to, but I found someone online who claims to have run the Dawntrail Benchmark (4k Maximum settings) on the 9070 XT and Linux and got a score of 17076 "Extremely High".

If anyone here is impacted by the poor 9070XT FFXIV performance while on Windows, and could share the numbers they get in DT Benchmark 4k Maximum, and there indeed is a big gap, that might support s32ialx's suspicion that the issue lies in FFXIV's DX11, since Linux must always translate to Vulkan.

I hope you're ready for your jaw to drop at this, the 1% lows really bother me as they got down to 15FPS at some points, but it NEVER stuttered and those highs holy hell.







Now for the kicker, it would not actually let me run it in anything other than windowed mode, so there I dunno if anyone knows how to fix that i could get better results.

(Yes I know it wasn't 4k but I don't have a 4k display but even at 1440p (2K) with 22k score that seems reasonable that 17k on 4k max)

[jotoho]

That's some seriously impressive FPS numbers. While maybe not entirely conclusive as proof, it seems like DLL swapping is a very promising workaround for those of you stuck on Windows, while we wait for SE to hopefully get their tech fixed or replaced. Fingers crossed on them switching graphics API in favor of Vulkan.

The bad 1% lows are curious since I've seen people praise 1% performance on this card, but maybe that was caused by DXVK needing to generate Vulkan shaders on-the-fly or something.

It is a relief to know that, as a Linux player, the card would probably have worked as expected in my system. Personally, my problem lies in being able to buy an MSRP 9070XT in Europe at all. 😅
Accidentally dropped my glasses seconds before the sale embargo ended, and by the time extremely-nearsighted-me managed to find and get them out of the place they ended up, minutes had passed and the initial card supply online had already been bought up.

[s32ialx]

That's some seriously impressive FPS numbers. While maybe not entirely conclusive as proof, it seems like DLL swapping is a very promising workaround for those of you stuck on Windows, while we wait for SE to hopefully get their tech fixed or replaced. Fingers crossed on them switching graphics API in favor of Vulkan.

The bad 1% lows are curious since I've seen people praise 1% performance on this card, but maybe that was caused by DXVK needing to generate Vulkan shaders on-the-fly or something.

It is a relief to know that, as a Linux player, the card would probably have worked as expected in my system. Personally, my problem lies in being able to buy an MSRP 9070XT in Europe at all. 😅
Accidentally dropped my glasses seconds before the sale embargo ended, and by the time extremely-nearsighted-me managed to find and get them out of the place they ended up, minutes had passed and the initial card supply online had already been bought up.

oh no D: hopefully more MSRP cards come out but from what I am hearing that might not happen, the only way I was able to get one at MSRP was by standing at the door literally first in line waiting over an hr before they opened cause the line filled up behind me 15 people or so!

[NzomiKujo]

In every other game 9070 XT is making 5070 Ti look like an absolute pathetic joke (in terms of cost per frame). It's just FF14 that's different. And potentially it could be fixed with drivers. Most people are still far, far better off buying 9070 XT rather than 5070Ti/5080, especially since the former is actually in stock at MSRP.

There's something wrong with the 9070XT in Valorant, Counter Strike and Elden Ring, maybe add Silent Hill 2 to the list too and who knows how many more that reviewers don't test.

Yes I know it wasn't 4k but I don't have a 4k display but even at 1440p (2K) with 22k score that seems reasonable that 17k on 4k max)

That's like 3080Ti performance.

[s32ialx]

There's something wrong with the 9070XT in Valorant, Counter Strike and Elden Ring, maybe add Silent Hill 2 to the list too and who knows how many more that reviewers don't test.


That's like 3080Ti performance.

what if this is something in the gameworks engine that nvidia added (since we all know they love their closed source stuff and lack of sharing) that is preventing new AMD cards from working.

Crazy conspiracies aside I really do hope this gets fixed my 3070ti was okay but it was clearly failing hard is some instances and it was a growing pain on me the lack of vram on a Ti series vs the lower regular 3070 really showed how bad of a card it was especially on games like Star Citizen.

[Cubester]

Oh interesting, but I shouldn't need FSR on FFXIV considering how old the graphics engine is

Well, one of the reasons I use DLSS in the game is because its anti aliasing quality is better than FFXIV's native implementation of TSCMAA + Jitter in my opinion at least.
There's better motion clarity under movement using DLSS 4, but if that never bothered you then there's no real reason to use DLSS or FSR if your GPU is powerful enough.

I just thought I'd mention it, in case you'd like to try it.

[Alice_Rivers]

According to a video I listened to today AMD actually has the orders in place with TSMC to deliver hundreds of GPUs to vendors.

[Etupa]

Am totally lost right now...
Am using a 3060ti with a 5700X3D and wanted to upgrade GPU to a RX9070, but after seeing GamerNexus benchmarks... I have no idea if it's still a good choice or if should I get a 4070 ... Since, tbh, I don't trust SE doing his job here on updating to vulkan because "spaghetti code please understand"...