Moogle Treasure Trove Feedback (more of a complaint)

[Katz_McKatz]

Why do the Weekly/Minimog/Ultimog not have more variety?

All of the Weekly/Minimog/Ultimog Are level 61 (Ultimog) and 70, 80, or 90 for the others ones even for characters still in ARR or HW.

Could we have some choices? Even the alternative choice for the weekly Fates requires you have the Endwalker Island.

Why is it so restricted? Can't their be choices for lower levels?

I know you can slog it out with the standard objectives, however, I don't see the point in being so narrow in the other methods.

[Minali]

The current Minimog Challenge is certainly very sprout and alt unfriendly, same as the Ultimog Challenge. And yet again your Weekly Objective is independent of your MSQ progress, got an EW patch trial with an alt with MSQ in Shadowbringers.

The way it is set up makes it most profitable for the users who are on level 100 and already got at least half of this, while the newbies who'd love to have one of the shiny fancy mounts or minions or so have to spam duties the traditional and very unfun way. FFXIV's devs keep repeating how they value the player's time and how everyone should be able to play at their own pace, which is nice, but then they keep doing stuff that's actually giving sprouts a disadvantage. That sounds like a bit of a contradiction here. Please mind your audience when creating stuff like this, devs!

[USAFJerrySo]

The current Minimog Challenge is certainly very sprout and alt unfriendly, same as the Ultimog Challenge. And yet again your Weekly Objective is independent of your MSQ progress, got an EW patch trial with an alt with MSQ in Shadowbringers.

The way it is set up makes it most profitable for the users who are on level 100 and already got at least half of this, while the newbies who'd love to have one of the shiny fancy mounts or minions or so have to spam duties the traditional and very unfun way. FFXIV's devs keep repeating how they value the player's time and how everyone should be able to play at their own pace, which is nice, but then they keep doing stuff that's actually giving sprouts a disadvantage. That sounds like a bit of a contradiction here. Please mind your audience when creating stuff like this, devs!

This should incentivize to proceed further in the MSQ or get a subscription. Most players are tired to play low level dungeons & only the Crystal Towers alliances.

[Minali]

This should incentivize to proceed further in the MSQ or get a subscription. Most players are tired to play low level dungeons & only the Crystal Towers alliances.

That's not going to happen though, or rarely, if they ask an ARR sprout to level to a level 90 patch dungeon in a week. I'm sure this is one of the general ideas behind the event, for improving roulette queues eventually, and I very much like them doing this in theory. But if this is actually supposed to work, you have to ask the Level 85 MSQ person to unlock Eden and the Lvl 60 MSQ person to unlock Saint Mocciane's Arboretum, not the other way around. If the thing the game would like you to play is very obviously out of reach or super far behind what you are interested in, people simply won't bother doing it. So if this is one of their goals, they are actively preventing it from succeeding at the moment.

[Supersnow845]

That's not going to happen though, or rarely, if they ask an ARR sprout to level to a level 90 patch dungeon in a week. I'm sure this is one of the general ideas behind the event, for improving roulette queues eventually, and I very much like them doing this in theory. But if this is actually supposed to work, you have to ask the Level 85 MSQ person to unlock Eden and the Lvl 60 MSQ person to unlock Saint Mocciane's Arboretum, not the other way around. If the thing the game would like you to play is very obviously out of reach or super far behind what you are interested in, people simply won't bother doing it. So if this is one of their goals, they are actively preventing it from succeeding at the moment.

But the point is this isn’t designed to draw in the “I’m still in ARR” sprouts. The roulettes literally exist already so we can help these people. But now a veteran retention event has basically turned the levelling roulette into the “sub 50 learning roulette” because ARR dungeons are on the event even though this event is specifically for veterans and not sprouts and veterans are sick of dzemeal darkhold and praetorium

Putting ARR content in here doesn’t encourage anyone to do anything, it just encourages sprouts to continue using the levelling roulette to fill queues into mindless ARR stuff without actually encouraging progression while not helping veterans because their queues still spit out the same garbage as before

Things need to be put mildly out of reach of sprouts to encourage them to progress, not languish in ARR and veterans need rarer content. This is why eden and ivalice fit perfectly here as does HOH as the ultimog challenge and the fate mining biasing ShB. They just need to delete the sub 50 trash from the event because all that does is benefit mostly non sub paying ARR sprouts who are the antithesis of this event at the detriment of everyone else

[Kaurhz]

It's a bit ridiculous.

The Ultimog and weeklies frankly need to be based around MSQ progression of the character at the time of the event. e.g., if you're in ARR/HW then maybe change the Ultimog to be Complete Floor 100 of Palace of the Dead.

Like.... The rewards and the challenges contradict each other to a degree....

[Collin_Sky]

That's just what the darts on the content dartboard hit.

Better luck next time.

[Gurgeh]

Yeah this seems really stupid. It ought to be at least smart enough to scale to your current MSQ. I thought there main point of this was to help people catch up. But instead the lower you are the more time you have to waste redoing early dungeons rather than reaping the big bonuses. Adding to distance between you and those further on in the game.

[Mawlzy]

Yeah this seems really stupid. It ought to be at least smart enough to scale to your current MSQ. I thought there main point of this was to help people catch up. But instead the lower you are the more time you have to waste redoing early dungeons rather than reaping the big bonuses. Adding to distance between you and those further on in the game.

No, it's to further reduce the quality of Frontline matches.

[CuteBucket]

Surely it wouldn't be that hard to offer a challenge that lets us choose content from each expansion? So no matter where sprouts and alt characters are (or at least to completing base ARR), there's something they can access, while veterans can pick from later game things if they prefer. Like if the challenge is a dungeon, pick from a selected dungeon from each expansion, if it's Alliance Raid, make it one random level from each expansion, etc.