Content getting harder to pop

[Supersnow845]

I popped temple of qarn as dps late last night in 6 minutes. You definitely have a setting wrong in your duty finder.

So you popped an ARR dungeon that’s in the mogtome event right now me that’s supposed to refute their point

[Hanayumi]

Population wise for active players we should be at the lowest point now number for a number of reasons, decline, lack of content, end of patch lull, and other massive game launch (MHWilds.) Seasonal event with gear might push things a tiny bit, but next couple weeks are going to be slower than ever until next patch.

[Misutoraru]

I'm on Chaos (Cerberus) and haven't noticed any issues with queues in non-working time hours. Mostly queue as DPS, stuff generally pops after 7-8 minutes at most, aside from Ivalice/Nier raids.

It seem vary a lot, see quite a lot of Ivalice (probably due to tomestone event), and quite a lot of Eden. However, EW raid took quite long to pop, even in Sunday afternoon just few hours after daily reset. I try queuing as both tank and dps, seem to have similar average wait time between 20-40 minute

[SongOfTheWind]

It seem vary a lot, see quite a lot of Ivalice (probably due to tomestone event), and quite a lot of Eden. However, EW raid took quite long to pop, even in Sunday afternoon just few hours after daily reset. I try queuing as both tank and dps, seem to have similar average wait time between 20-40 minute

Yep, tomestone event just shifted everyone to one type of duty. HW alliance raids (any) did not pop after 40 minutes as a healer during evening time on Chaos

[Kinazu]

Okay, let's go over this.

Okay so I live in eu and everything i say is entirely subjective to EU population, but I am extremely concerned about the state of the game in the last 3 months. lately nothing i que for seams to pop without ridiculously long que timers.

What are you queuing for? Because most duties I queue for, no matter whether it's Tank, Healer or DPS has been fairly short. 10-15 minutes at most.

in PF the savage tier is basically dead in if its not between 7-9st (which is a very small window to play this content) cloud of darkness pf seams to be shrinking as well with that content basically not going until about 3pm and its went from 20 pf to about 3 tops.

Right, let's see... If I currently open the PF I see 50 parties (outside of primetime).
Of which 35 are High Duty. Most are for Ultimates but there are 7 for Savage floors. I would not consider that dead. Chaotic is another type of beast and you're better off finding a Discord server for it to be honest. You also have to consider that those who are done farming likely will not return to it, therefore less parties as well.

Roulettes on average as a tank take over 5 minutes to pop which is honestly crazy. dps ques don't even pop for upwards for 30 minutes and healers instantly pop which means you either play healer or nothing (not exactly the best look when it says TANK in need constantly.) which just clogs the que up more with tanks. My boyfriend recently made a new character and he made a healer, too and even he couldn't get the older content to pop, average wait times for trails were over 15 minutes (as a healer) and since he was new he'd be pulling in mentors yet it still wasn't enough

I somehow find it weird that you have to wait for 30 minutes where as all my roulettes popped within 5-10 minutes on a dps no less. Again, outside of primetime. There are exceptions to this of course, but on average it has not been long at all, especially not 30+ minutes long.

pvp crystalline conflict has been notoriously bad too with it popping only after 11am consistently and its always the same 15 people from the pool as well, so even less of the availed spammable content is active. and while one might say "its the time of week" I have this problem on weekends too

It has been well known that PvP only starts popping around a certain time and will indeed cycle through the same players until more are added to the pool. Nothing new when you play on off times. You're also playing at the tail end of the season, it'll pick up again around 7.2 when the new Series comes out.

fishing boats are almost always under capacity as well tho this is from observation not direct engagement. overworld fates are generally dead in DT zones and only S-ranks and A-ranks trains being the only thing people do now consistently.

Don't do the fishing thing often so can't comment on that, however the overworld has always been dead besides the occasional hunt train. There are a few parties for Fate grinds up in PF every once in a while, or make your own when you're doing it. They may not get a lot of traction but people will join eventually.

Now I give these perspective from light DC and i've heard chaos is even worse if not damn near unviable as a datacenter. but of course your mileage may vary. all i wish to do is point out that the games current content cycle and release schedule has been increased to on average 19 weeks (its pretty much to the T) which is 5 months and not the 4-4.5 months we were told it would increase to. and this is having very bad impacts on the population of the game right now.. It's never felt this bad in the 6 years i've played

Yeah, sorry no. The game is still healthy despite what others think. I still have screenshots where I waited 3-6 hours (and more) for one duty to pop as a Healer back in HW / early Stormblood. Back when it was common for dps to wait at least 30 minutes for one dungeon (or any duty that was not current really), I'll happily take the 10-15 minutes wait we have now.

And Chaos is far from dead. Roulettes still pop in a reasonable timeframe. The only thing that is dead on Chaos is PF as everyone is on Light for that.

This is also very upsetting when I continuously see alternative clients like MOBILE and now CHINA EXCLUSIVE client getting updates more than the main game. but hey maybe ur experiences are different, maybe im only this games target audience between 7 and 9 PM st. /shrug

Yeah, right. China that's behind our own patch cycle. They get exlusive stuff every once in a while that eventually will get ported over to us as well, so in due time we'll have that too.

I also don't believe that the devs that are working on the mobile version are the same that are working on the main game. Will there be overlap? Most likely. Will it hinder the main game's development? I highly doubt it.


All in all, it's really not as bad as you make it out to be. Wait times have been stable for a while now and we're in the lull of the patch, combine that with some big game releases it's only natural that there are less people. However, in my point of view it's no where near as dead as you claim it to be.

[Vhel]

45 mins for Pharos (hard) or hells Keir (normal and savage both selected) this morning as a dps, just after the cards. It’s not good, could I sync Pharos to be fair but it’s boring.

[AshtonCrowe]

It's pretty dead on NA too aside from Crystal n Aether, I can go an entire day without seeing another person unless i enter a city on Dynamis.

I'm idling right now on Crystal trying to queue for Abyssos 5th circle and sitting at 50 min queue, SE needs to either get their act together or start fusing stuff cause Abyssos is harder to proc than Crystal tower, Nier & Skypirate combined.

Sol 9 is also super dead on dynamis 0 souls in vicinity most the time.

[Supersnow845]

The alliance roulettes queue system is just flawed for people trying to direct queue

For 1 the raid doesn’t backfill so all people have to accept otherwise the queue rejects
Secondly the queue prioritises minimising the queue for the most amount of people. We’ve all seen it. You’ll be queueing for say………puppets and the queue will pop once or twice and not go through because someone rejects and then suddenly the queue goes dead. You know what happens when that happens……the queue has dumped the rest of the players sitting in the roulette into CT and your queue reset

The alliance roulette really needs to be rebuilt

[hynaku]

Queues is longer now and also doesn't help having DDOS attacks all the time that causes you to be booted from the game.

[Misutoraru]

The alliance roulettes queue system is just flawed for people trying to direct queue

For 1 the raid doesn’t backfill so all people have to accept otherwise the queue rejects
Secondly the queue prioritises minimising the queue for the most amount of people. We’ve all seen it. You’ll be queueing for say………puppets and the queue will pop once or twice and not go through because someone rejects and then suddenly the queue goes dead. You know what happens when that happens……the queue has dumped the rest of the players sitting in the roulette into CT and your queue reset

The alliance roulette really needs to be rebuilt

Alliance queue is certainly very weird, direct queue take ages to pop, but if I queue the alliance roulette it is always less than 5 minutes no matter which role