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    Paladin Lv 95

    Compact skills similar to PvP

    Please make this an option so ppl can save space on their hotbar and have easier times with rotations, having 2-3 separate 1-2-3 combos is 6-9 keys that could be used the same if it was only 2-3keys, idk rather do 1-1-1 single target or 2-2-2 for aoe and 3-3-3 rather than 1-2-3,4-5-6,7-8-9. I know some will die on the hill of "No I don't wanna do that and I don't like that" which is why I'm saying to make it optional so they can enjoy it their way and everyone else can simplify their hud and use less keyring which in turn makes the game more casual/less complex for mnk and controller players. Paladin is a great example of button bloat mixed with 3 different 3key combos. It has so much utility you can't fit everything on 3bars, I'd have to use 4 bars to get the most out of one of the first unlockable tank specs once I hit 90 which for some players that by itself will scare them away from it and might make them play something simpler with less keypresses like bard or warrior or whm
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    Few typos and mistakes with words but in sure yall get what I meant, like instead of keypresses I meant "keys"
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    King Canadane
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    The game is already so overly simplified, any further and it's basically a mobile game.
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    I still say if 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 is so complicated you need it changed to 111 222 333, it's not a game issue.

    If they reduce everything down to 1 button, they are going to have to rev up the complexity by a lot in other areas. I would say the vast majority can already watch HULU and snack as we play most pieces of content, if they make it any easier we may as well go all in and just make combat a series of quick time events.
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    Gisela Thorne
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    The only jobs where that would actually make the jobs easier or more comfortable to play are the ones with super simple 1-2-3 combos. So for DPS that'd be only RPR and MCH. And I still wouldn't want those two to have it either, because you know it's going preclude any possibility of future complexity, or worse cause so much bemoaning about it being unfair only RPR/MCH has that, that they would start to further oversimplify other jobs too to fit the 1-button mold. Because for whatever awful reason SE seems to listen mostly to people who demand more and more homogenization in the name of "fairness".

    Players already do it incessantly in regards to PvP exactly, even if they clearly don't play any melee jobs even semi-seriously in PvE. Because even a cursory glance of the PvE combos should make it pretty clear why button consolidation on the basic weaponskill combos would just make them harder to play without severe simplification of the combo mechanics. Which would be an inevitable consequence if they added it even as an optional feature - Cue every casual coming to end-game content having no clue there are positionals, branching and buff/dot upkeep involved because the game has taught them smashing one button without thought is good enough. And SE would then cater to them.
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    Last edited by ThorneDynasty; 05-27-2024 at 09:39 AM.

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    Wrong, You can still read positionals when buttons get simplified, Again this should be optional
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    "Vast majority" not only a stretch but also you just made that up. My post was asking to make this optional because it would be a great QoL to casuals and even tryhard players that just wanna save keyboard space.
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    I'm honestly indifferent on 1-2-3 being 1-1-1 as long as it's an optional thing. I feel like I would like it on some jobs more than others. If it's enforced then yeah, I'd have an issue with it.
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    Game is not oversimplified, Also if you read the post it says "Optional"
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    Thank you, I'd love just to have more button space, for me the 1-2-3 isn't "too hard" it's just more buttons than I want to press lol
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