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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I highly disagree. It empowers people to produce things that would've taken entire teams to do before. Is it in its infancy? Yes, but this is the worst it will ever be. It will get exponentially better. As for evidence you can see this small demo
    Ngl, that thing in the youtube video looks horrible in every sense of the word. It's all smokes and dazzlings. And quite frankly, you can disagree all you want, the experience of someone who actually has business expertise is worth so much more than some guy who claims to have done things in a youtube video, and a couple of mediocre half-assed assets.


    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    AI is already generating a lot of value in the enterprise/research context, given that you're using it properly (using it in a way that you're not trying to use an LLM to do something you can't already do yourself).
    While that is true, the very moment you need to double check what your LLM has done, the time that you have saved not making $thing will then be spent fact checking $thing. How much that is depends, but as you say yourself, letting an LLM do work you are incapable of doing yourself will result in unsatisfactory or simply worse results.
    I can see LLMs working well in STEM research because the data used there is not quite as subject to human subjectivity like proper coding, drawing, or writing is, but based purely on objective reproduceable facts. Hells, I am hoping that we get that stuff to do our taxes for us so we have more time to do the things that really matter. But until all those algorithms can actually replace human ingenuity and creativity in creating something from nothing, a lot of time will pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Ngl, that thing in the youtube video looks horrible in every sense of the word. It's all smokes and dazzlings. And quite frankly, you can disagree all you want, the experience of someone who actually has business expertise is worth so much more than some guy who claims to have done things in a youtube video, and a couple of mediocre half-assed assets.
    I love the copium, you wouldn't believe the absolute garbage it was producing some years back and now it's like this. And this is from someone who did that in a couple of hours alone. It will exponentially get better. But again, a lot of people can't really see the potential behind things, they just look at something and bury their head in the sand, like you.

    This is light years ahead of what it was even 2-3 years ago. And in a few years time it will be light years ahead of what it is now. And yes, all studios are either already embracing it or will look into it.

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    Last edited by Ath192; 02-28-2025 at 02:55 AM.
    Below we have a transcription of what Naoki Yoshi-P Yoshida said at PAX:
    - "For some players, like me, I kind of get sleepy because it's so repetitive."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I love the copium, you wouldn't believe the absolute garbage it was producing some years back and now it's like this. And this from someone who did that in a couple of hours. It will exponentially get better. But again, a lot of people can't really see the potential behind things, they just look at something and bury their head in the sand, like you.

    This is light years ahead of what it was even 2-3 years ago. And in a few years time it will be light years ahead of what it is now. And yes, all studios are either already embracing it or will look into it.
    Love how the coping shill for AI is using the word copium here. Let me guess, you have invested in that stuff and are now afraid to lose money?
    That article you posted may claim that there was AI at work, but not to what extend. Nice try though, keep flailing, its amusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Love how the coping shill for AI is using the word copium here. Let me guess, you have invested in that stuff and are now afraid to lose money?
    That article you posted may claim that there was AI at work, but not to what extend. Nice try though, keep flailing, its amusing.
    lmao so now the denial is that you don't know the extent? it doesn't matter what extent, its the fact that its there and it will only get used more and become better overtime. AI is already here. Cry me a river. There's no trying from my part, just pointing out facts and watching people lose their minds over it.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 02-28-2025 at 03:01 AM.
    Below we have a transcription of what Naoki Yoshi-P Yoshida said at PAX:
    - "For some players, like me, I kind of get sleepy because it's so repetitive."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    lmao so now the denial is that you don't know the extent? it doesn't matter what extent, its the fact that its there and it will only get used more and become better overtime. AI is already here. Cry me a river. There's no trying from my part, just pointing out facts and watching people lose their minds over it.
    Sure, but all it's going to do is make more assets. AI is never going to let those artists create innovative gameplay or great combat encounters. It's going to help an indie dev who is good at programming to make a decent-looking game. But IDK why you're looking at the AAA industry when their problem was never the amount of assets they have but their boring gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    Sure, but all it's going to do is make more assets. AI is never going to let those artists create innovative gameplay or great combat encounters. It's going to help an indie dev who is good at programming to make a decent-looking game. But IDK why you're looking at the AAA industry when their problem was never the amount of assets they have but their boring gameplay.
    SE in particular is asset constrained, otherwise they wouldn’t be re-using them every expansion. So I wouldn’t say that’s it’s not a problem. And yeah I agree the gameplay can be boring in XIV, but it would be more tolerable if there was more of it, which requires…. More assets.

    It won’t do anything for job design or combat mechanics, but it can help for more exploration zones and things to see and do.

    Call me crazy but if dawntrail had 6 exploration zones full of new assets to collect and see we wouldn’t be seeing anywhere near the amount of complaints in this game as we are now. Even if they kept the same combat mechanics. (That being said combat absolutely needs more creativity)

    So I do think it's half of the problem.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 02-28-2025 at 04:26 AM.
    Below we have a transcription of what Naoki Yoshi-P Yoshida said at PAX:
    - "For some players, like me, I kind of get sleepy because it's so repetitive."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    SE in particular is asset constrained, otherwise they wouldn’t be re-using them every expansion.
    You know what's cheaper than paying someone to generate AI assets? Reusing old ones.
    Asset reuse will always be cheaper and more efficient than making new ones. That's why they do it, not because of constraints. Additionally making new assets for every little thing for no reason would balloon file size absurdly.
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