Moogle Treasure Trove Feedback (more of a complaint)

[USAFJerrySo]

The current Minimog Challenge is certainly very sprout and alt unfriendly, same as the Ultimog Challenge. And yet again your Weekly Objective is independent of your MSQ progress, got an EW patch trial with an alt with MSQ in Shadowbringers.

The way it is set up makes it most profitable for the users who are on level 100 and already got at least half of this, while the newbies who'd love to have one of the shiny fancy mounts or minions or so have to spam duties the traditional and very unfun way. FFXIV's devs keep repeating how they value the player's time and how everyone should be able to play at their own pace, which is nice, but then they keep doing stuff that's actually giving sprouts a disadvantage. That sounds like a bit of a contradiction here. Please mind your audience when creating stuff like this, devs!

This should incentivize to proceed further in the MSQ or get a subscription. Most players are tired to play low level dungeons & only the Crystal Towers alliances.

[Minali]

This should incentivize to proceed further in the MSQ or get a subscription. Most players are tired to play low level dungeons & only the Crystal Towers alliances.

That's not going to happen though, or rarely, if they ask an ARR sprout to level to a level 90 patch dungeon in a week. I'm sure this is one of the general ideas behind the event, for improving roulette queues eventually, and I very much like them doing this in theory. But if this is actually supposed to work, you have to ask the Level 85 MSQ person to unlock Eden and the Lvl 60 MSQ person to unlock Saint Mocciane's Arboretum, not the other way around. If the thing the game would like you to play is very obviously out of reach or super far behind what you are interested in, people simply won't bother doing it. So if this is one of their goals, they are actively preventing it from succeeding at the moment.

[Supersnow845]

That's not going to happen though, or rarely, if they ask an ARR sprout to level to a level 90 patch dungeon in a week. I'm sure this is one of the general ideas behind the event, for improving roulette queues eventually, and I very much like them doing this in theory. But if this is actually supposed to work, you have to ask the Level 85 MSQ person to unlock Eden and the Lvl 60 MSQ person to unlock Saint Mocciane's Arboretum, not the other way around. If the thing the game would like you to play is very obviously out of reach or super far behind what you are interested in, people simply won't bother doing it. So if this is one of their goals, they are actively preventing it from succeeding at the moment.

But the point is this isn’t designed to draw in the “I’m still in ARR” sprouts. The roulettes literally exist already so we can help these people. But now a veteran retention event has basically turned the levelling roulette into the “sub 50 learning roulette” because ARR dungeons are on the event even though this event is specifically for veterans and not sprouts and veterans are sick of dzemeal darkhold and praetorium

Putting ARR content in here doesn’t encourage anyone to do anything, it just encourages sprouts to continue using the levelling roulette to fill queues into mindless ARR stuff without actually encouraging progression while not helping veterans because their queues still spit out the same garbage as before

Things need to be put mildly out of reach of sprouts to encourage them to progress, not languish in ARR and veterans need rarer content. This is why eden and ivalice fit perfectly here as does HOH as the ultimog challenge and the fate mining biasing ShB. They just need to delete the sub 50 trash from the event because all that does is benefit mostly non sub paying ARR sprouts who are the antithesis of this event at the detriment of everyone else