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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    Where can I find the stats of the new items?
    Mooglebox got the data for the items last patch (they've been in the game, just not obtainable).
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I'd like to talk about this Van Darnus thing - they get us all hyped up on the "conclusion" and "final battle" -- and now it's got a hard mode? Plus a repeatable easy mode? With rewards for both?

    Do I automatically get the easy reward for having beaten it before? Or do I have to do that again, too?

    So what was the point of the "final battle" and "conclusion" previously?

    I'm like borderline uncontainable gamer-rage, here. I fought hard for that win - and it was, aside from a few cutscenes, meaningless? Way to ruin the sentiment.
    *This battle content presents some contradictions when played alongside the main story, as events following the battles are the same as those experienced during the quest "To Kill a Raven." Please note that these battles do not have to be completed to advance the story. "Rivenroad (Hard)" is currently the most punishing battle available in FINAL FANTASY XIV, and we intend for players to enjoy this as a special challenge after completing the main story.
    A fight that's just for fun and challenge before the servers go down for a few months? OH GOD THE BLASPHEMY!

    Did you flip out over Ifrit and Garuda too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    A fight that's just for fun and challenge before the servers go down for a few months? OH GOD THE BLASPHEMY!
    A reply that completely ignored my comment being focused on their use of words like "final" and "conclusion" and my interpretation of the sentiment behind the win, regardless of the inclusion of things like fun and challenge, which I do enjoy? OH GOD, THE FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE FORUM STANDARD BEHAVIOR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    A reply that completely ignored my comment being focused on their use of words like "final" and "conclusion" and my interpretation of the sentiment behind the win, regardless of the inclusion of things like fun and challenge, which I do enjoy? OH GOD, THE FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE FORUM STANDARD BEHAVIOR!
    Oh now you're just looking for an excuse to cry.
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    If someone wins an argument, they have learned nothing.

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    So if you have already beaten him once, you have completed the story. Yes it is quite an ordeal but this content will last until servers go down (I am assuming in January, they wouldn't shut the servers down because 4000 people are in 2.0 beta... -_-) for a month, then *pop* *sploosh* 2.0!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    So if you have already beaten him once, you have completed the story. Yes it is quite an ordeal but this content will last until servers go down (I am assuming in January, they wouldn't shut the servers down because 4000 people are in 2.0 beta... -_-) for a month, then *pop* *sploosh* 2.0!

    you are assuming they will have 1 or 2 servers, even the last beta had at least 15 servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    A reply that completely ignored my comment being focused on their use of words like "final" and "conclusion" and my interpretation of the sentiment behind the win, regardless of the inclusion of things like fun and challenge, which I do enjoy? OH GOD, THE FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE FORUM STANDARD BEHAVIOR!
    If you play a game again and get the same ending, do you feel the same way?

    I realize its a story fight. But its a heck of alot better this way then watching it on Youtube cause you wanted to see it again. Id rather play it again, like i did atleast 20 times for each NES, SNES FF that came out. I didn't throw the cartridge at SE headquarters cause Zeromus died the same way twice.

    Its for the fun of it with or without some one who needs it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viritess View Post
    If you play a game again and get the same ending, do you feel the same way?
    Depends on the context, I suppose. Short answer, a more accurate parallel would be when the ending of Final Fantasy X-2 was a reuinion that negated the powerful emotion I felt at the ending of part one.

    I felt pretty accomplished for taking part in the "conclusion" and seeing the "finale." Now I feel like I didn't really accomplish anything - that it was a stepping stone, a minor fight that paved the way for my real goal.

    I'm happy to achieve the new goal - but... at the same time it's bittersweet. It's all about the words used to describe the fight, I think.

    I guess it's just a fun extra in the end... but something psychologically sits awkwardly with me. No one else felt that stinging disappointment at the same time as the excitement?
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 08-14-2012 at 06:54 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    A reply that completely ignored my comment being focused on their use of words like "final" and "conclusion" and my interpretation of the sentiment behind the win, regardless of the inclusion of things like fun and challenge, which I do enjoy? OH GOD, THE FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE FORUM STANDARD BEHAVIOR!
    The coming fight is not the final battle, but a hard-mode side battle. No part of the story.
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