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  1. #21
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    Exmo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daughterofdeath View Post
    you assume I care what any human thinks of me, and to answer the question yes Im chloe saunders the vampire princess waiting for her prince, and as for your "allegation idgf unless your a vampire prince, undead werewolf or at the very least a demon boy your view and thoughts of me matters not, more so with the week i been having with my intensive thoughts better share them in a good way like this than what i really want to do which if i did would end up with me in that place.. forever



    its obviousely me i never care to hide who i am because there no reason to I am honest truthfull and ive proven my points multiple times with real life pictures and my address
    I was going to make a joke (it would have been really funny, trust me) but honestly your reply just made me feel sad I don't know who you are or what your history is but I hope you find the help you need.
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  2. #22
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    Wasselin Kainz
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    Framing toxicity as a "cold truth of the world" is a failure of imagination. We create the world we want, and can make a better one if we try. Just because toxic behavior exists doesn’t mean it’s necessary or productive. Many thriving communities prove that mutual respect and constructive communication can work without resorting to toxicity. By saying that toxicity is sometimes necessary, you risk justifying harmful behavior, creating a slippery slope where "tough love" becomes an excuse for cruelty or abuse. The idea of using toxicity as a form of "natural selection" to "breed out" bad players is deeply flawed—it dehumanizes people, reducing them to their mistakes and ignoring their potential to improve with the right support. Toxicity isn’t the answer; fostering growth through patience and understanding is.
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  3. #23
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    Vhaeje Ebony
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasselin View Post
    Framing toxicity as a "cold truth of the world" is a failure of imagination. We create the world we want, and can make a better one if we try. Just because toxic behavior exists doesn’t mean it’s necessary or productive. Many thriving communities prove that mutual respect and constructive communication can work without resorting to toxicity. By saying that toxicity is sometimes necessary, you risk justifying harmful behavior, creating a slippery slope where "tough love" becomes an excuse for cruelty or abuse. The idea of using toxicity as a form of "natural selection" to "breed out" bad players is deeply flawed—it dehumanizes people, reducing them to their mistakes and ignoring their potential to improve with the right support. Toxicity isn’t the answer; fostering growth through patience and understanding is.
    if they really want to improve there is a thing called DOING THE DAMN JOB QUEST AND novice training AND READ THE DAMN SKILLS it legit hand holds you so far that there is little no excuse for many of the things outside something new that happans on boss fights, you legit get pops tips and advice and if your really willing to learn you wouldnt be making the same mistake in the game every single TIME you would ask yourself what is going on and change your methodly even RATS IN MAZE LEARN THAT when going after cheese that if their method to get that cheese isnt working you dont KEEP DOING THE SAME THING you try something different to get the cheese the players repeat the same thing over and over again and expect to not die lol

    if it dehumanizes guess what idc it is needed at a certain point everyone like oh human oh its bad idgf
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    Last edited by Daughterofdeath; 02-23-2025 at 11:43 AM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daughterofdeath View Post
    if they really want to improve there is a thing called DOING THE DAMN JOB QUEST AND novice training AND READ THE DAMN SKILLS it legit hand holds you so far that there is little no excuse for many of the things outside something new that happans on boss fights, you legit get pops tips and advice and if your really willing to learn you wouldnt be making the same mistake in the game every single TIME you would ask yourself what is going on and change your methodly even RATS IN MAZE LEARN THAT when going after cheese that if their method to get that cheese isnt working you dont KEEP DOING THE SAME THING you try something different to get the cheese the players repeat the same thing over and over again and expect to not die lol
    Rats dislike the smell of cheese.
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  5. #25
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    Daughterofdeath's Avatar
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    Vhaeje Ebony
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Rats dislike the smell of cheese.
    I meant it as a point that even animals as worthless as rats look at what there doing wrong and try something different not literal lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasselin View Post
    Framing toxicity as a "cold truth of the world" is a failure of imagination. We create the world we want, and can make a better one if we try.
    Actually a world where we can be toxic to deadweights sounds fantastic
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  7. #27
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    I did (lvl 90) Hydaelyn yesterday through Trial roulette and got a horrible Tank.
    No mit ever and tanked here into the group and ofc took out several people with her cleave tank buster including our healers.
    We told him to tank it north, but ofc he wasn't listening and wiped us again and yes for a 3rd time.
    Instead of removing this guy everyone was coddling him and explaining basic tanking concepts to him that he should have picked up 15 trials ago..
    When I finally got fed up and said ffs tank it away from the group I was branded the bad guy ^^"
    I just removed myself, but I wish the community wouldn't be like this, hell he might even get the hint and try to improve.
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  8. #28
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Without the ability to call people out for being terrible, some people are never going to improve because they don't think there's a problem.
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  9. #29
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    the problem with kicking if the reason given isnt right you can and everyone else that voted yes can get reported for false kick.sadly that is the true. Yes I do agree that this game have a toxic positivity that is overwhelming everyone treat everyone like if they are kids. I dislike the fact that Square let it slide too like if someone is bad and you give them advice politely of course. you shouldn't get even the chance to be banned for it.

    Square have cradle the player to a degree where it is as bad as the woke community and if you don't agree you are shut down reported and bullied to submission.

    This game need a better understanding of "what the real world is" instead of giving everyone a ban if they don't agree with anything or for just saying one swear words.
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  10. #30
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Uh the case with some people is that even with negative reinforcement (If we want to call it that), you aren't really going to accomplish much, since the issue is likely going to be a mentality one if it is that glaringly obvious, e.g., too lazy or no enthusiasm.

    Like, yeah, it might be an issue, e.g., Using 'Cure I' over 'Cure II' because of the baited Free Cure proc, but if you're going to get toxic over that then there's some serious thin skin going on (and yes people being toxic under the guise of "bUt i Am OffErInG CrIticAL fEeDbACk", would still constitute as being thin skinned").

    Said it on page 1 but to reiterate, many of the issues with players is a failure of the game as much as it is a failure of the player.
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