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    syldon's Avatar
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    Hagar Doomhammer
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90

    Why make trials so integral to the completion of the MSQ

    It took two attempts and over an hour of queueing to get The Mount Ordeals done. Now I am on The Voidcast Dais and have been waiting an hour in this sitting. All side quests are done and I am sitting at lvl 96. So basically sitting watching a screen all this time.

    So why make this character progression so beholding to a trial system that is not even feasible to complete. I have another trial after this one just to get to the latest expansion.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I wonder if it is time or day or what server you are on? Generally speaking, Trial Roulette should help fill that queue up in far less time.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The reason is because they want you to fight a big bad boss with a party of players. Although they find it genuinely challenging to make Duty Support NPCs work for trials, they are also torn on whether to do it because they want there to be bosses so powerful that NPCs can't cut it and provide the experience of taking it down with players. This is what I've read across numerous interviews at least.

    Back when I was going through the MSQ for the first time 10 years ago, every single dungeon and trial was a 40 minute queue and this was on a tank. There was no NPC support either.

    The best advice I can give for this is:
    • Queue at evening hours for your region, when more people are playing.
    • Ask for help in your Free Company or Novice Network chat. They can queue with you to increase the speed at which it pops.
    • Start recruiting in Party Finder to find more people to help.
    • Unsync it. Any that are below level 91 can be unsynced using the Unrestricted setting. This means you won't need a full party. Although the higher level it is, the more people it would be ideal to have, to help with damage and survival.
    • Once you begin Dawntrail, the first two trials have NPC support. Only the last one doesn't.
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  4. #4
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    Jacob Haze
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    One hour is unlucky at this time of the day on a Saturday in EU. Have you enabled all languages in Duty Finder? You could also set up a Party Finder and shout for help in Limsa.
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    Hagar Doomhammer
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    Where is the option to unsync it?
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    Player
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    Hagar Doomhammer
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    One hour is unlucky at this time of the day on a Saturday in EU. Have you enabled all languages in Duty Finder? You could also set up a Party Finder and shout for help in Limsa.
    I had not enabled all languages, thanks for the tip.
    I got this one done. One more left to go. And yeah trials never took this long the last time played.
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    Vim Mercer
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    Alpha
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by syldon View Post
    Where is the option to unsync it?
    See here

    To activate this function, open Duty Finder under the Duty section of the main menu and select the gear icon on the upper left corner to open the Duty Finder settings, then select the Unrestricted Party button.
    Can't say if you can solo it at your level. Honestly though, since you are in EU, try the evening hours, the game is more active then. It is an MMORPG, so some semblance of group play is expected, I'd say. Good luck!
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

  8. #8
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Soloing is going to be messy with the 6.5 trial if OP continues to run into this problem anyway because the 6.5 trial has a white hole mechanic. Which means at best likely only PLD will have a chance at it, especially since it doesn’t stop auto’ing during white hole

    I don’t think trying to solo is a viable strat
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  9. #9
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by syldon View Post
    I had not enabled all languages, thanks for the tip.
    I got this one done. One more left to go. And yeah trials never took this long the last time played.
    Glad you got it done!

    In the future though, definitely start a PF, mark it as Duty Completion, and mention the first-time bonus! I look specifically for that stuff in PF when I’m trying to get second chance points for my Wondrous Tales to shuffle my stickers.
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  10. #10
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    here are three reasons why your queue time is so long:

    #1 You only turned your main language on in the Dungeonfinder.
    #2 You play at a time when very few people are online (3-7am?)
    #3 You play a job role that is overabundant, try registering as a healer or tank when DPS queue is too long.
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